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post #1 of 33 (permalink) Old 01-26-2007, 10:28 PM Thread Starter
 
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Hi Breeders. The Havanese Club of America recommends you look for a breeder who does the following tests: CERF, OFA, CHIC. Do all breeders do these tests? And if not, why wouldn't a breeder do a particular test? In addition, what are the significance of these tests? Thank you. I deeply value your expertise.
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post #2 of 33 (permalink) Old 01-27-2007, 06:28 PM
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Rita, I don't know much on this for sure, but I tell you what I think I know and then maybe somebody else can jump in here. Not all breeders do these test, and I think some say they do and don't. I think why they might not do the test is maybe the expense of the tests. In my research the more test done the higher price of the dog. The significance of the tests done on the puppy and past family members is to see if the have or had any health problems, if the health problems run in their family line.
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Rita, I am almost positive I read somewhere that you don't have to do the OFA test, because the results aren't accurate. I'm not sure though, I'll have to try and see where I found that info at.

I think that's like some say soap the dogs, others say it's not worth a thing. I personally would OFA, but that's because I'm used to golden's who have to have it.

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You read that from someone who does not do testing because of their own reasons, probably financial. Responsible breeders test! I've learned that from this forum And just because they say they test, doesn't mean they do! Get proof. Ask questions, ask for the CERF and OFA numbers so you can look it up yourself. We should all be from Missouri on this one! (the show-me State)
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I know, but I would have sworn I read it here. I'll have to check when I have more time.

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Ok, found it.

Sorry, it's wasn't specifically OFA, it was just about getting hips tested.

I *knew* I read it here though! LOL Here's the quote.

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For a pet I wouldn't worry about hips. Havanese hips are very flexible and unless you have someone who has done xrays on Havs enough to know how to hold them you can get anywhere from a Good to a Fail on the same dog.

For breeding dogs I would also get an SA320 full blood panel with Pre and Post bile acids and a Cardiac test.

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Absolutely xray hips for breeding dogs.
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Ok, thanks for clarifying. I was wondering about that

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HCA recommends CERF(annually) OFA HIPS, Patellas and Baer. CHIC is a certificate that is given by CHIC once the recommened health testing has been completed. There is one more award given annually by HCA called a 4 star award. This is give to all HCA member dogs that have completed and PASSED all required health testing. CHIC says it has been done - pass or fail - the 4 star says the testing is done and all required tests are passing. Some breeders do more than the recommended testing - they do CARDIAC, Thyroid, LCP, Elbows, liver function and bile acids. The more testing you do the better. Nothing is for sure no matter how much health testing is done -stuff still comes up - but the best shot you have with a really healthy puppy is one where the parents have been extensively tested. By not doing it you are burying your head in the sand. There is no line that DOESN't have health problems - only breeders that don't test under the guise of "my line doesn't have any of that" - my question is If Your line doesn't have any thing - then why not test and prove it?.
Testing may not be the best that there is but it is the best that we have at the current time.
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Thank you Joan. I was waiting for you to tune in. I believe in testing. I just was fishing to see what "GOOD" breeders would say. I think Melissa set this area up for the purpose of us listing questions and having "GOOD" breeders give us the facts. Hopefully people look at this before purchasing puppies.

I think having this for other people to see from a breeder like yourself will set the record straight. Thanks again.
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