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post #1 of 23 (permalink) Old 03-23-2007, 12:54 PM Thread Starter
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need advice from breeders

I have a male Havanese who is nearly a year old. In our contract we agreed to keep him intact until 18 months for breeding purposes. He is now 10 months old and is 12 1/2 inches, which I think is above thestandard. Additionally, he has a right leg deformity (the ulna has stopped growing but the radius continued, causing a bowing). Both our vet and the orthopedist recommended neutering because of thepossibility that the leg problem is congenital, so we were planning to have this done when he has surgery for his leg. However, the breeder wants us to collect him to use him for breeding. Our vet says this is unethical and refuses to do it. We're not sure what to do, and I was wondering what others think about this.
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WOW - I am curious on the response for that dilema....I agree with the vet - unethical to breed him...

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I'm not a breeder, but, I would side with the Vet, Read the fine print of your contract, does it say anything about being "show quality". That may give you an out

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I am not a breeder either , but I am with the vet and other posters, totally unethical. Re-read your contract and fine print, this dog should not be bred.

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Boo,
I already responded to you off list when you posted to the big Havanese list. I personally would NOT use this dog for breeding!!!
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I saw this on that mailing list today too and it just gets me so angry that there are breeders who just don't care enough to say 'no, this one can't be bred' ! I mean, much better to cut your 'losses' and not take the chance in producing pups with potential problems than making a few bucks!! Sheesh!!

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I agree with the vet 100% and I am not a breeder. If this is a congenital problem, how many other puppies will they produce with similar problems? Does the breeder know about the problem with your puppy and still wants to breed it? I think that breeder's name should be posted so people know to stay away from their puppies!

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Oh I agree, do NOT breed him. You can deal with the breeder later and I am sure you would get a lot of support on your side from ethical breeders trying to improve Havanese.
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The HCA needs to know the name of this breeder. Email it to me privately if you like.
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Tom,
I disagree with this approach. The owner should write to HCA not a member who is not involved. I know you are trying to help, but it really needs to come from the owner. That is what HCA wants.
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