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I will be getting a puppy from a cream mother and a black father with white feet. Are darker colors more dominant like they are in humans? Could you please speculate on the colors of the puppies. I know that predicting color is tricky at best. However, I'd love to hear some educated guesses from breeders. Thanks for your help.
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Hi,
I will be getting a puppy from a cream mother and a black father with white feet. Are darker colors more dominant like they are in humans? Could you please speculate on the colors of the puppies. I know that predicting color is tricky at best. However, I'd love to hear some educated guesses from breeders. Thanks for your help.
No, you need to know what is behind the sire and dam several generations.
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This why you need to know what's behind the sire and dam.

Here's pix of Tori (black), her dam (black & white parti) and sire (white).
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And, even when we think we know what is behind the parents, sometimes we still get a surprise. I had an oddball brown brindle coated chocolate dog when none of us expected it, but after looking back farther into both sides of the puppy's pedigree, we found a common demoninator. The litter was a complete mish-mosh of colors: two black, one white, and one brown brindle chocolate. I expected the black, but not the other two colors.
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out of curiosity...

is black and/or dark colors dominant like they are in people?

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Dark color is dominant but this is depending also of depending of what is behind.

For instance for Cisco, all the puppies where of the same color, and if he reproduce I will not choose a black to continue the same color, for him and is father, mother, brother and sister and other oif similar color, there will be only that color, this is a specialty of my breeder.
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Linda, in hair colors don't work genetically like they do for eyes (what you are probably thinking of?). Hair color works as a MIXTURE of two genes, which is why is so difficult to predict hair color and actually hair color genetics is to this day not fully understood. I think the same can be applied to dogs, but I'm not sure about this.


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