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Where is your havanese from?

When I was looking for breeders, some of them told me that their Havaneses come from Hungary, Ireland, etc.
What is the difference? (besides the obvious). Don't they all originate in Cuba and should be bred to Cuban Havs as well?

There was a lady that told me the ones from Hungary are said to be mixed with the Bolonka (sp??). Another breeder said that because his come from Ireland he doesn't do health testing since the are VERY healthy!

What's the story behind all that?
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Hi Zury,

Though I'm not a breeder, my two come from diff. countries. Ricky was bred here in Quebec, Canada and Sammy in Hungary. I know there is no Bolonka in his lines at all. Though there may be a bit of Lizard with the way this little guy licks and flicks his tongue...

Not all Havs originate in Cuba. Before they got to Cuba, they were in Spain and Italy, so the European Havs most likely stem from there, as do the Cubans, then the U.S. and some Cdn. ones. Some lines in the U.S. and/or in Canada carry a lot of Hungarian Havs, others none or very few.

I love Ireland, but I can not see how an Irish Hav would be any healthier just because it was bred there, than it's counterpart anywhere else in the world! That's just silly! LOL




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Hi Zury,

Though I'm not a breeder, my two come from diff. countries. Ricky was bred here in Quebec, Canada and Sammy in Hungary. I know there is no Bolonka in his lines at all. Though there may be a bit of Lizard with the way this little guy licks and flicks his tongue...

Not all Havs originate in Cuba. Before they got to Cuba, they were in Spain and Italy, so the European Havs most likely stem from there, as do the Cubans, then the U.S. and some Cdn. ones. Some lines in the U.S. and/or in Canada carry a lot of Hungarian Havs, others none or very few.

I love Ireland, but I can not see how an Irish Hav would be any healthier just because it was bred there, than it's counterpart anywhere else in the world! That's just silly! LOL
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Yeah, the guy that claims his are "Very Healthy" cause they are from Ireland is selling them at half price too!

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Tess, a puppy mill breeder, is from Hungary.

Odds are someone selling a Hav for half price is a backyard breeder/puppy mill.

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Yeah, the guy that claims his are "Very Healthy" cause they are from Ireland is selling them at half price too!
Sounds like how Tiffany's works - superior quality for half price. Not!

(Please don't be offended. I'm just in one of those moods tonight.)
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Half price would scare me to death, run away! I didn't realize they came from different countries!

Now if Tiffany's had a half price sale I'd be all over it!!!

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Dora my dog from a backyard breeder- her pedigree is all from Hungary too. While I think there may be some nice havs that come from hungary- I also think a lot of the puppy mill and backyard breeder stock comes from there

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My hav is from Australia... but Charlie's lines (and most lines in Australia) are from UK /Europe.

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Dugan came to me from Havanese Rescue. He was originally purchased in a pet store by an older woman who never had a pet before. It did not take her long to realize she was in a bit over her head (he is a handful) When I told Brady's breeder about him, she saw his picture and said he looked like he came from Hungary. Although I am sure there are probably some wonderful breeders in Hungary, according to Brady's breeder, a lot of pet store pups come from there (which means so do puppy mill dogs). Brady's lines have been in the US for as far back as I can see.


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...(Please don't be offended. I'm just in one of those moods tonight.)
No way, why would I? I am not the breeder!


Actually, the one for half the price are from "Ireland" and no, I did not buy or will buy it from there!
The ones from hungary are from a reputable breeder. Another breeder told me that some breeders stay away from the Hungary line because they could be mixed with Bolonka (back from the begining of times), but I doubt a breeder would miss that if they were getting a Hav from Hungary for them!
After looking at pictures though, I have noticed that the Havs that come from Hungary Havs are a bit smaller than others and the hair is not as straight, Has anyone else noticed that as well or is just me?

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