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False Pregnancy

A bit of a bummer to think to get excited for a litter of puppies only to find out there are NONE. The thing that really threw us off is that her teats were more developed than when she was pregnant last time. She actually looks like she has milk and she didn't look that way last time until 5 days after she had the pups.

1.) How do you really differetiate between a false pregnany or a possible reabsorption? Are there any clear indications of a reasborption? Her stomach seemed to get bigger and then it started shrinking a bit.

2.) I'm thinking that maybe the timing of the mating was off. She had two good ties one at 15 mins & the other at 20 mins. I came across a ovulation timing test & was wondering if any of you use those?
http://www.camelotfarms.com/premate.php

3.) Before we bred her we had her blood taken & the vet said she was good to go. Is there anything more specific that we should be looking at?

4.) Any tips for a successful breeding next time? I'm thinking AI wouldn't be such a bad idea..

Now the fun part, we fattened her up a bit so now getting the weight off. Currently she's on strike and hasn't really ate much for the past two days but after a month of being spoon fed guess that is to be expected. Looks like we're goin to be visiting the park a lot!

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Oh how sad! Is she acting differently? I didn't know that could happen! How do you know for sure that the dog is pregnant?

(She's beautiful!)

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I have no experiences to add but-wow- Renee I didn't even know you were a breeder! (I need to pay attention more...)
I don't know how you guys do it all-sooo much work.
In any case I hope she is feelling ok.

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I'm just curious

I don't have any breeding advice I'm just curious? If she is only a month into her pregnancy, how do you know there are no puppies? I have heard of even some vets that have made mistakes with diagnosing pregnancy that early. Or has she long passed her due dates?
I hope you find the answers that will help you have success next time.

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A good article

After reading your post I got curious and looked a few things up on the internet. Here is a good Article I found. I hope it helps.
http://www.antechdiagnostics.com/cli.../1999/2-99.htm

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Oh how sad! Is she acting differently? I didn't know that could happen! How do you know for sure that the dog is pregnant?

(She's beautiful!)
Thanks! Her looks have grown on me b4 I was mainly a sucker for Irish Pieds.

Yeah, she's usually a pretty aloof dog but she's been ubber cuddly lately! Now, hopefully she'll stay this way

There are several ways: ultrasound/sonogram, blood test, x-ray
Initially we wanted to get a blood test but our vet doesn't offer that. Opted against a ultrasound as I've read that they can cause the bitch to reasborb the puppies. I don't know how true but would rather not risk it. See, her mother had 3 singleton litters and each time the ultrasound would show multiple puppies.. Then we found out that apparently the stud was known for throwing singleton litters. So who knows. We opted to have her x-rayed but it can only be done when the puppies bones have calcified from day 54-58.
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I don't have any breeding advice I'm just curious? If she is only a month into her pregnancy, how do you know there are no puppies? I have heard of even some vets that have made mistakes with diagnosing pregnancy that early. Or has she long passed her due dates?
I hope you find the answers that will help you have success next time.
She was at day 56 (Monday) when we had her x-rayed. Thanks, we do to. Everything happens for a reason. So keeping my fingers crossed for next time.
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So, I'm confused. Is she pregnant or not? If not, how did you confirm it?

Edited to add that I see you replied as I was asking my questions. What did your vet say after the films showed no puppies? Any advice on how to care for her?
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I have no experiences to add but-wow- Renee I didn't even know you were a breeder! (I need to pay attention more...)
I don't know how you guys do it all-sooo much work.
In any case I hope she is feelling ok.
Well we're haven't had that many litters. Her mother (Mimi) had 3 singletons that I missed due to the fact that I was in college at the time. One of the main reasons we decided to breed her was that our friend & handler who showed Sophie to her championship really wants a puppy and to keep this particular bloodline going. Mimi was my first dog but I left her with my parents when I went away. I got a Papillon while in school. Anyways, long story short after I moved back I fell in love with them again. Can't quite replace their personality. Took me the longest while to get adjusted to my Papillons personality. He didn't quite show me the enthusiasm that he missed me as much as Mimi did. She still does. Every morning she waits at the gate that closes them off to the rest of the house waiting to greet me. She jumps up and down, whines and cries till I pick her up!
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So, I'm confused. Is she pregnant or not? If not, how did you confirm it?

Edited to add that I see you replied as I was asking my questions. What did your vet say after the films showed no puppies? Any advice on how to care for her?
Sorry, my responses are out of order. Ugh, I had tried to do a multiple quote response in one message then I hit browser back & it ate my response! Always my luck..lol

She's not pregnant. He didn't really give much advice except try better luck next time..
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