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post #1 of 122 (permalink) Old 09-17-2009, 05:20 PM Thread Starter
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Havanese or Shavanese


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I bought a puppy about three weeks ago from a breeder who told me that I could show and breed her, so I paid extra for that right. Penny is about 3 months old now, born June 10, 2009. I am thinking now that she is a Shavanese. The breeder denies that she is, though. I didn't do enough research on Havanese before I bought mine and didn't know about them. Anyway, I love her dearly and want to keep her, but I asked the breeder if she could refund me the difference in money that I paid for a breeder quality dog, and only charge me for a pet quality dog. The breeder is angry about this and not taking it kindly. Plus she is refusing to give me the puppies papers now, until she goes into heat once (but that is not on her contract and in emails she previously told me that they were on their way to me). So its totally making me not trust her.

So here's my question, does she look like a Havanese or a Shavanese?

Ok, I'm so new that I don't know how to upload her pics!
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post #2 of 122 (permalink) Old 09-17-2009, 05:33 PM Thread Starter
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Ok, I had to resize my pics. Hopefully you can see them. I have more pics if these aren't good enough.

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Definitely need pics! Go to Advanced & you'll see a Paper Clip symbol 4th from the right. Click that & upload. If you have issues uploading, your image is probably too large. Hope this helps!

Here is a link to Shavanese:
http://www.dogbreedinfo.com/havanesephotos7.htm
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Short Haired Havanese-that's how it looks to me.

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Shavanese. She's a doll tho! Well a lot of ppl will be envious as there is less grooming involved with the Shavanese.
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The part that I'm not happy about is that I paid $2,200 for her. And the breeder is denying that she's a Shavanese AND also mentioned something about a lawyer in her last email to me.
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Couldn't you sue HER for not delivering what she said she was, and for what you paid?
Maybe some breeders will chime in...

Renee, Miley, & Copper too!

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Thanks Nan and Renee for your opinion. I thought I was just crazy after reading what the breeder was telling me. She made me think I was totally wrong. Now I'm thinking she doesn't know what she's doing.

I guess that if she is nasty to me and won't give me some money back, we'd have to sue her. She is holding Penny's papers too and won't give them to me.
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How can she deny that she is a Shavanese? When it is so blatantly clear that she is?! I can't believe she's the one bring up the lawyer.. Definitely seems she's trying to sweep this under the rug which is so wrong. Were you planning on showing at all? Tell her that you will submit a picture of Penny to Dog Breed Info for their opinion & that you will include her kennel name.
http://www.dogbreedinfo.com/havanesephotos7.htm

Also, you might look into contacting AKC I have seen that they handle breeder & puppy buyer disputes. Might also contact them about sending out an AKC judge who is very familiar in the Havanese breed!

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Well, I thought I'd try to show her. I'm a stay at home mom that has time to play with her, and train her, and primp her all day. My husband was also really excited about this too, and he's the one who actually decided to pick Penny. So now he's feeling guilty. The breeder had two available puppies. The other one had a lot of really wavy hair and she said Penny would have long straight hair, like her mother, who was there.

I left the breeder's name and any of her information out of this so that she couldn't retaliate by saying I slandered her. But I am totally bummed about this situation.
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