I'm looking for my first Havanese puppy. The standard price seems to run $2ooo. Is it normal for pay that and give a puppy back too? I'm having a very hard time finding a puppy. The reputable breeders are making it very difficult to purchase a puppy. I understand their reasoning but what they are doing is pushing people to buy from not so reputable breeders.
A typical price is normally 1800-2000, some selling for more. I would run like the wind if the price was lower than 1500 and to find good lines that are health tested at 1500 is rare. They may have had too many litters or they might have other things going on in their life and need to find homes quickly. Remember a breeder is a person with a life and not all breeders treat this as a business. Some do, many don't.
I'm a breeder and I will not buy with a contract of a puppy back as a general rule. First, how do I know that that puppy will turn out well enough for me to feel it should be bred? Don't let anyone put your into a position of compromising yourself or your values or the health of future dogs. If you do buy with a puppy back contract, make sure there is a clause in there that will let you back out of it should you feel the dog should not be bred.
With a puppy back clause the breeder basically winds up getting the initial price of the puppy, let's say 2000. Then they wind up getting another puppy for free that you could have sold for 2000, so the actual selling price of that puppy is 4000 plus your costs.
There are some who put into their contracts that they may use your dog three times for litters.
There has been one dog out of the litters I had that had it gone with full registration I would have wanted a puppy back. I had a choice of selling the puppy to a breeder or a loving home where I knew the match would be fantastic so I sold the puppy for less money to the non breeder and that puppy was everything I was looking for in conformation, personality, and health. Had they chosen full registration and shown her I would have been there every step of the way and made sure she was shown and bred to a great stud and I probably would have wound up still paying probably half price for the puppy even with a puppy back contract unless I was the one providing or paying for the stud service but I don't look at this as a business and there are some breeders who would probably think I was nuts for being so easy going.
I have a friend who is stuck in a contract with more than one breeding back and it's backfired big time on her. Others are in a puppy back situation and the dogs have heart problems with the breeder wanting their puppy back. You need a spay or neuter clause to keep you from this. There is no reason on this earth for bringing an unhealthy litter into this world. Everything in a puppy back contract needs to be clearly stated in a contract..every detail, even the smallest one, for the protection of future dogs put on the ground.
In the puppy back contract how many live and healthy puppies do you need to have to constitute not giving a puppy back? If there are only one or two do you give a puppy back? If so, you are looking at a lot of money that you will not be getting back and expect to go into the hole with the litter as far as money goes.
Does the person with the puppy back contract show the dog for you? Do they mentor you? Do they believe in spay neuter should you feel the dog shouldn't be bred?
There are 3 breeders I would buy with a puppy back contract because I know them very well and know their lines very well...and the kicker of it is, they probably wouldn't hold me to a puppy back or they'd give me half price for the puppy and let me decide if the dog should be bred.