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This is a new area on a TRIAL basis. Its either going to be great or get out of hand, but nothing ventured nothing gained.

Here you can list your breeder, and your experience with them. Good or bad. Stick with the facts, no slander or emotional rambling.

Breeders ...feel free to start a thread and say what you do as a breeder. What health testing do you do? What kind of set up do you keep your dogs in? Are they in kennels or do they live in the house? What do you strive for when breeding, such as temperment...conformation, color, whatever it is. Do you show?

Be prepared to BACK UP what you say. We want photos, we want documentation of health testing. List your bloodlines and dogs.

Im hoping people can ask LOTS of questions. It wont be easy to lie to people here, because lots of people, some in the business and some not, will be watching! SO if you are unethical breeder, think twice before participating, bad practices will be discovered.

One very IMPORTANT RULE: DO NOT ADVERTISE PUPPIES. Don't result to a classified ad about a puppy. New litter photos are fine, just do not say they are for sale or available.

This should be a great learning experience. It will also give people who think they want to breed a look into what it takes, its NOT easy, its NOT profitable and it should be Hard Work! Give the facts but try to keep it friendly.

Melissa
 
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#52 ·
we all know that puppy faces are irresistable.
Truer words have never been spoken. When we visited our breeder for the first time we had no intentions of claiming a puppy. I wanted to see adult Havs. I figured anyone would love a Hav puppy but puppies grow up.

It so happened that she had dogs ranging from 8 weeks up to 6 years (some of them she was dog-sitting). I had been doing my homework and was ready to see if I liked the adults as much as the puppies. Well, of course I did, but it was my HUSBAND who uttered the immortal words, "are any of the puppies available?" This from Mr. "we could never pay that much for a dog!"

That being said, contact some breeders and talk to them. Really listen to what they have to say. If you get one like ours he or she will LOVE to talk about their dogs. their conformation shows, their dogs' health, etc. Take the idea of buying a puppy out of the picture and ask yourself if you would trust doing business with this person in any other capacity. Go with your gut feeling. If its a good fit, then go play with puppies.....the rest will be history.

Susan
 
#53 ·
I would like to add just one thing, "Take your time". You will have this little furball in your life for 15 years or more. It is worth the time to get it right. Good luck in your search.
 
#54 ·
I think an internal breeder referral list should be tracked where you can actually talk to the person that made the comments. Something where people can't get sue crazy over, and enough to give us more help/info in the decision process. Just like when you pick a school for your kids, there is always bad stuff, but if you hear it first hand and know what to look for, you can make a more informed decision. It could be organized by state/location and breeder name. Then a list of people who bought from there, and you can PM them yourself. If a breeder was to get crazy and either talk them selves up or others down, I think that by talking to enough people you would see what is bogus....
 
#55 ·
I think this can be a really great way to find out more about reputable Breeders in your area! Unfortunately, there are those that assume and say things that are not true. Which has happened to me on your forum! It has not really affected my breeding or sales that I am aware of... but does obviously upset me that the ones who said really untrue things about me never came to see me, never bothered to check me out or ask for any health testing results on my Havanese, or references! Just made accusations and assumptions that were so untrue. This of course is posted on google, when my name is googled! Even after someone defended me on your forum, who has one of my Havanese, the false accusations continued! So I think bad experiences should be told, and if you have been to a breeder's house and see bad breeding practices or you have been dealt with poorly or unfairly, have a Havanese with health issues, from poor breeding or matching mates..then it should be known! I encounter Havanese homes with horror stories of their precious pup having heart, Lux. patella, hip, eye problems all the time. These are perhaps the ones in need of saying buyer beware! As these are predisposed to the breed, I am not sayng anyone who has whelped a pup with any of these afflictions are bad breeders. I have not had any in the 7 years I have bred, but that does not mean I will never have one, correct? We, as reputable breeders, should do all we can to Health Test our Havanese and check out their full lineage for compatibility and Health, Correct? I do. So before speculation and false accusations, I just ask please check out the breeder in question a little more before throwing that dagger! Best Regards, Heidi Gonzales Tacoma WA Vet: Firgrove 253-848-1563 - Havanese-Facebook - http://heidishappyhavanese.com - My number: 253-202-1563 Happy always to answer any and all questions!
 
#56 ·
Why are you venting on an old thread. Get on with your life.
 
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