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post #1 of 43 (permalink) Old 04-16-2007, 04:07 PM Thread Starter
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Deposits for puppies??

I wasn't sure what forum to put this on so just picked this one. We are currently carrying on several conversations with different people about this by email so I thought it should be publicly discussed.

It looks like some breeders require a deposit just to be put on a waiting list for a puppy. Others don't. I can't really come up with a good reason to require a deposit to be on a list unless the breeder just wants to lock the buyer to their program to make sure they only get a puppy from them. There might be other reasons and I would like to hear them.

We don't require a deposit until we know that we have the right puppy for the people on our lists. Only then because we have had a few people who seem to like to do all the correspondence necessary as if they are going to get a puppy but for one reason or another they never do and then we end up with a puppy past the optimum age to place. For people buying their second puppy from us we never require a deposit. Other breeders (that we know and send buyers to when we don't have the right puppy in a litter for them) do it the same way we do.

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As you said, I can understand a deposit once a dog is matched up with their forever home. I don't like the idea of a non-refundable deposit, either. What is your feeling on this?


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I've had many people ask if they could put down a deposit and I won't take them - at least not yet. When the puppies are five weeks old, I have asked for deposits to be made at that time and I will refund it if I cannot provide a puppy for some unforseen reason.

I can't remember the details, but something with California law made me avoid taking any deposits until the puppies are a bit older.

My main reason for allowing a deposit to be received at all is for the buyer's peace of mind. I want them to know I'm serious about working towards finding a puppy that is right for them.

The main uncertainty is that I am not comfortable pairing up puppies to homes until they have gone through their temperament testing (7 weeks old) and conformation evaluations (8 weeks old). I try to be very clear with those on my waiting list. If a particular litter requires involvement of another breeder (e.g. stud owner getting pick), then we have one more reason to wait.

I went on a slight tangent there.

My requested deposit is 1/4 of the purchase price of the puppy.
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Yeah Kimberly, that's the way we do deposits too, but we've had some people tell us lately that some breeders are requiring a deposit just to be put on a waiting list???????????

Nonrefundable doesn't sound quite right either. We just require the deposit so that we know that they are really serious as you would be surprised at some of the people that contact us as if they want to get a puppy but evidently have some other agenda.

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...we've had some people tell us lately that some breeders are requiring a deposit just to be put on a waiting list???????????
I think that is nuts. Why would anyone need a deposit ahead of time?
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I have seen several websites that state "non-refundable deposit". One of them is in Rhode Island and advertises everywhere.


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I've seen the non-refundable deposit thing too, but it's been awhile.

Another breeder was talking to me about it as well, commenting on how strange it is to have a breeder take a deposit and then refuse to refund. (Even if a pup isn't place because of the breeder)
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In some states, a non-refundable deposit is illegal and I would assume they would lose in Small Claims court.

This is one of the reasons it is always good to do your homework first. I have no idea about any of these breeders, so my comments are generic, but I encourage people to research the breeder BEFORE you ever look at puppy pictures. Pictures seem to help logic drain out of the mind - me included.

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When looking for our next dog, we were also looking at Coton breeders. I found a lot of them make you put a deposit down as soon as they have a litter. I think it does give the buyer and seller a piece of mind as they are going to get a puppy, especially if on a waiting list for awhile. I think most breeders didn't accept a deposit until they had a puppy for you.

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I am not a breeder but I am a customer. I can understand a 'refundable' deposit(in case one cant be matched etc.) but if you have a litter of, say, 5 puppies and you have 10 people wanting puppies, i personally would like to give a deposit to know that i will be given priority in getting a puppy.
Plus i would think, as a breeder, you would not want to turn away potential buyers for someone who is really not serious about getting a pup. If your given a deposit, i would think they would really want a puppy. Thats just my opinion.

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