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A few of us on the forum have Rockhurst pups and Beth has beautiful clear red and red sable dogs.
Where is she located? We live in Virginia.

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We're looking to stay in Virginia, North Carolina, and South Catolina area.

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We're looking to stay in Virginia, North Carolina, and South Catolina area.
She is in Ottawa, Canada but some on the forum have flown up to get their pups from her and made a little holiday out of it.
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I think Heather was implying that, though she doesn't doubt they adore their dogs, they may not be your best bet, and looking at their website, I have to agree. They had 2 litters within 10 days of each other, which is nothing but trouble to me. She seems to also breed almost purely for the chocolate color, which is another red flag for me. Color is the absolute last thing a breeder should be selecting for. "White chocolate" is a gimmicky term she made up for a white pup with poor pigmentation, from what I'm gathering from her site.

If a clean home and happy and healthy looking dogs were all it took to be a "reputable breeder", we would be in deep trouble. As others have said, please please read the sticky on finding a reputable breeder.
I agree with most of what you have written here, except that it is very common for females who live together to start cycling together So there are certainly times that an excellent breeder could have two litters very close together. I certainly wouldn't hold that against a breeder if that were the only "issue"... Which doesn't seem to be the case with this breeder.
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Where is she located? We live in Virginia.
Rockhurst is in Canada. While she does produce some very nice puppies, keep in mind that the laws have changed, and a puppy can no longer be brought into the U.S. without a rabies vaccination... which means you either have to vaccinate much too early, or wait an awfully long time to get a puppy from her if you are in the U.S. It's a shame, and not her fault,but that's the way it is.

Please don't chooses a puppy just based on color. That is the LEAST important thing when choosing a dog.


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I agree with most of what you have written here, except that it is very common for females who live together to start cycling together So there are certainly times that an excellent breeder could have two litters very close together. I certainly wouldn't hold that against a breeder if that were the only "issue"... Which doesn't seem to be the case with this breeder.
And I did mean that that wasn't necessarily an issue in and of itself, but the fact that she doesn't seem to be breeding with the best intentions makes me doubt that she put much thought or planning into the litters. It seems she only uses the one stud dog and one of her two or three (can't really tell from the website, also not a wonderful sign) bitches no matter what.

Mario's breeder, who is nothing short of wonderful, had a litter that went home about a week after Mario was born and another that was born a month after he came home (new puppy's breeder's foundation bitch came from that litter, actually). These pairings were all planned around a year in advance, the girls in the house just happened to go into heat in pretty rapid succession that year
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Where is she located? We live in Virginia.
Our Scout is from Rockhurst. His mother is red and the sire apricot sable. Beth does have beautiful reds and other colors too. We flew to Canada to pick him up. I didn't know there were new restrictions.

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So when i first started looking into havanese i found havahug and was thrilles since they are literally 15min away from me! Her two females were pregnant for the first time, at the same time.
Admittedly i wanted a chocolate. I contacted them and she told me she had 3 reserves on the chocolate litter but i could reserve a spot on the other female i declined. Of her first chocolate litter she kept a chocolate parti female.
When she bred them again i admit i was on the wait list, but i was able to get a refund when i adopted my smores. I found smores and was researching on this site about reputable breeders and was concerned that at havahug i would be paying $2k for a puppy from parents that didnt appear to be health tested. That is when havahug had her second litters with the two "rare white chocolate"puppies.
And now it appears she has bred the same bitches a 3rd time? She just had another chocolate litter and those puppies i asked who the dam was. I was genuinely curious. I love her Facebook page and photos and her puppies are stunning.
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Our Scout is from Rockhurst. His mother is red and the sire apricot sable. Beth does have beautiful reds and other colors too. We flew to Canada to pick him up. I didn't know there were new restrictions.
They were enacted within the last couple of years, so it's possible that you got Scout just before they went into effect.


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