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Hi! We're new, and looking for some advice :)

Hello everyone!

I've got so excited once I got the email that my account was finally activated. I've been reading a few posts on here for the past couple of weeks. I'm 15, and my family and I are looking for a new friend. Well, I am specifically. I'm an animal person what can I say! So... a little bit about ourselves...my parnets as their first dog together, had a cocker spaniel. Then after my brother was born we seemed to get attached to German Shepherds. I myself have bred chinchillas in the past, which let me say was probably the best experience ever.

We live in LA currently, and it has been a bit of a struggle to find a breeder, that is reputable, and close by. We might be visiting this one breeder tomorrow, (she is expecting a litter in October) but we like to first of all meet them before meeting the cute bundles of joy and making rash decisions on the spot lol ) It would be really helpful if you guys could reccomend us a few breeders. We found a few in the Sacramento area, even though it is a 5-6 hour drive, we don't really mind as long as we find a good breeder.

I was first introduced to the breed in a pet store ( yes yes I know) but since we do know that 99.9% of puppies come from a puppy mill (so horrendous) we don't know the parents, or how the puppy was raised (if they have even heard some household noises, or even set foot outside for that matter) and all that, we want to find a breeder. We had first looked at a Bichon Frises but A, the breeders are just way to far away, B the close ones don't reply or aren't active and C we just seem to like over all Havanese better.

Anyways, everyone on here is like an expert, so I'm really happy to become a part of it. When we get our new friend, we will keep you all posted throughout the exciting journey.

I also have a few questions. A very experienced Bichon breeder from up North, advised us that if we were to buy a pup (many of the havanese breeders have told us that their pups are roughs 1800) that we should have them well, breed. We thought, that since pretty much all breeders require that the pup be neutered/spayed at 6 months... so we figured that we would make a compromise or just discuss with them that we would let them choose the mate, and let them be the ones to take the pups and etc...

We really haven't given it a lot of deep thought, so again, we would really appreciate your advice. WE NEED GUIDANCE hehe

Also, bringing up the price, we don't believe that the most expensive pup is the best one, but at the same time as long as they get proper vaccines, and tests, then we will. I mean I've heard of dogs selling for 5,000. Just asking though, what do you think about that? I mean I'm a little lost in this...I still think its a ton of money.

And lastly before anyone makes any thoughts about me being 15 and not having enough responsibility, and maturity, please don't becuase I'm quite the opposite...I'm really looking forward to taking him for walks, because I love walking, and miss it since I have to drive everywhere to get places in LA.

So sorry for the long post....but I wanted to give as much detail

Thanks everyone and I look forward to getting to know you all!

Mercedes
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Mercedes!

It sounds like you're taking all of the right steps to finding the perfect puppy. You're absolutely right, you don't want a puppy from a pet store - it will be from a puppy mill (a reputable breeder would never sell their dogs through a pet shop), you won't know about socialization, health, to say nothing of the situation of the puppies parents.

There are others who I'm sure will respond to give you ideas on breeders. Another good resource would be your local AKC Havanese organization (check akc.com). The other option is adopting a puppy from HRI (Havanese Rescue).

Welcome to the forum and enjoy your search for the right puppy. I'm looking forward to hearing about your journey both during your search and after you get your new family member.

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Welcome to the forum, and good luck in finding a breeder! I bet someone from the forum that lives in your area can reccomend some good ones!
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Welcome Mercedes. Here is an article you might like. http://www.dogstardaily.com/training...t-good-breeder

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Welcome, and good luck in your search.

Yes, Havs are expensive, but you sure want to get your dog from a reputable breeder. Have fun hunting!

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Mercedes, welcome to the forum!!! There are a few really excellent breeders in California that regularly post on the forum (are we allowed to recommend them by name??). You can see by reading their posts how reputable they are and gain a little insight into how well they care for their pups. Good luck on finding the perfect puppy!
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Hi Mercedes! Welcome to the forum! You've come to the right place as there are quite a CA breeders here on the forum

Here is a link to the Havanese Club of America's breeders:
http://www.havanese.org/breeder-ref/69anese
*There are a lot of reputable breeders which aren't listed, just make sure you check references & health testing.

I think most Havs from a reputable breeder range from $1800 to $2500 but then there are those out there who aren't reputable who charge that much too...
$5,000 for a Havanese or for another breed?! I haven't heard of any Havs that go for that much.

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Welcome to the forum.

Here's the link to the southern california havanse club. It's a good place to start.

http://www.socalhavs.org/

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Aw thanks for all the lovely warm welcomes! I wasn't specifically referring to havs going up to 5,000. But dogs from breeders can get that high. I have checked the AKC and we have emailed a few breeder, none have replied however but I am for sure, going to visit with my family tomorrow, because we would really like to get to know the breed as adults!
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Welcome to the forum. Two year when I lived in LA, I went up to Sacramento and got my puppy- first time, I flew up ther, second time I drove. But there are also a lot of breeders in So Cal too. Great idea to meet breeders and their dogs. I have found with my last addition, meeting his mom, dad, and grandma. His personality is so much like theirs. So keep that in mind above color, etc. Great job not rushing in, know it is hard to do but the payoff is wonderful!

As to price, a lot of back yard breeders are on the coat tails of great breeders. I recently had a rescue who came from parents of no health testing, no showing, and was very unsocialized and the family who bought him paid the same amount that I did for my amazing dog from a great breeder. I look at the price as paying for the health testing, researching parents and blood lines, and the socializing my puppy everyday, etc. Otherwise you are really getting ripped off!

Breeding is a lot of work and something Havanese breeders dont take lightly to just say "well I paid a bigger price tag" so I want to breed my dog once or twice. Reputable breeders will put show dogs on contract. Your dog will have to be shown, pass all health testing, and be over 2 years old before being bred. There is work to keeping an intact dog, a lot of times house training issues, etc. So it is something you probably want to do a lot more research on before you add your furfamily member. Also note a lot of breeers may see you as a future backyard breeder with those type of comments. Breeders should only be breeding the best IMHO.

Be sure to ask a lot of questions around her and if you can go meet a bunch of Havs at HCSC! Or visit a local dog show!

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