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post #21 of 43 (permalink) Old 07-10-2010, 11:46 PM
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My 4 month old is on Blue puppy formula. That is the food the breeder had him on and I've been very pleased. I learned the importance of a good dog food when my last dog, a bichon, suffered from allergies for years. The vet gave her shots, pills, Science Diet (for allergies) and creams and she still had hot spots. I finally researched it and found the food I was giving her was mostly corn and other grains. I switched her to Innova and she had very few allergy problems after I changed her food. Here is a question, why do vets push Science Diet? My dog did much better on Innova.
science diet is not the high premium food that it claims to be.
vets get to go on 'conferences' that science diet supplements (the cost) and they make a profit on it by selling it in their offices.

i had a border collie and she had a beautiful coat, shiny black and white. my then vet said i should switch her to science diet, i did, and her coat went grey and all dandruffy...i went back to the original food and her coat went back to beautiful.

right now, i feed my 2 havs origen, the 6 fish version. i add ceaser slices wet and mix it all together. 1/2 cup dry and 1/2 small packet of wet for each. the key to them eating it though is that i cut back on treats. they get the same number of treats at the same times as before but just tiny bits of it now.
why would they eat the good stuff when they were full from the treats.

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I agree with above... vets make money from foods they sell.

However, I think part of it is that a lot of vets are just not super knowledgeable about dog nutrition. I mean, they just don't really get trained in it, and foods like SD, Iams, whoever spend a lot of money extolling the virtues of their foods. I think all of us have had a point where we fed something just because we didn't know better, and thought our dogs were doing 'just fine' on it.

We have a Registered Dietitian and several Registered Nurses where I work (Health promotion company). When I thought maybe I broke my foot I talked to an RN. When I thought I had a dairy allergy, and then needed to find alternative sources of calcium and Vit D in my diet, the RD was exponentially more helpful. Neither would have known more than basic information about the other thing.

Granted there aren't a lot of dog nutritionists walking around, but by the same token we really can't expect vets to know everything about everything. It sure would be nice though :-)

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I feed my dogs what the breeder suggested Orijen Puppy Food combined with Timberwolf Organics and she also suggested a some Nature's Instinct canned food and raw food. I have stopped the raw diet and have added Health Extension's Little Bites along with a small a small amount of EVO and Wellness canned food which is all I can find here in Windsor's Pet Wise stores.
Can someone tell me when you switch your dog from puppy food to dog food?
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Can someone tell me when you switch your dog from puppy food to dog food?
It depends a lot on the individual dog. Most small breeds can change over from 9 - 14 months of age, definitely sometime after they are done growing.

I've found the best way to figure out when to switch is that they will start getting a little chubby from the puppy food. They just don't need or use the higher-calorie puppy food anymore, and with no other changes to their diet/exercise routine, suddenly seem to be gaining weight (this is assuming they have been at a good weight through puppy hood).

If you put your thumbs on their spine, you should be able to pretty easily feel the ribs. They shouldn't feel like they're right up next to the skin, nor should you have to push hard to find them. Keep monitoring them (weekly or so) and you will likely eventually see a change.

Of course, your breeder and/or vet should be able to help you decide, too :-)

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I feel Kashi is ready as he has gained alot of weight from the puppy food however, Miya hardly eats or drinks all that much and holds her bladder pretty well so I don't feel she is quite ready to move over just yet but she may never gain any more weight as she was the runt of the litter.
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Hi, I'm new to the site, this is my first post. We brought a Hav home from a breeder two weeks ago. She is tiny, only 3lbs, and is 12 weeks old today. Her name is Moira, we call her Mo. Since she came home she has had loose stools and someone told me yesterday that she may need a dog food lower in protein for her sensitive stomach. Can you recommend what food would be holistic but also easy on her poor tummy? Thank you for your help.
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Welcome to the forum! Hopefully, someone will chime in who knows more about feeding.

Please search for the Introduce Yourself 2 thread and post on there so everyone can meet you!

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do you want to keep her on kibble? or canned? or homecooked? raw? there are so many options, you have to decide what is best for Mo and for your family and go from there!
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Hi, I'm new to the site, this is my first post. We brought a Hav home from a breeder two weeks ago. She is tiny, only 3lbs, and is 12 weeks old today. Her name is Moira, we call her Mo. Since she came home she has had loose stools and someone told me yesterday that she may need a dog food lower in protein for her sensitive stomach. Can you recommend what food would be holistic but also easy on her poor tummy? Thank you for your help.
If you really want to pick a good one check out Sabine, (nutritionist) used by a number of us on the forum. Tammy will confirm this. LOL Here's her site.. http://www.betterdogcare.com/?page=about Inexpensive. If she has no real issues, don't worry about the protein level.

Just an example of how helpful and thoughtful Sabine is. Last night I emailed her nine times with questions on flea and tick questions. She as always comes back with all the help you need. And is delighted to do so.

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Sabine is an amazingly thoughtful, helpful and giving person!! She does go above and beyond and answers and guides us through this confusing process with patience and understaning!!
feel free to message me if you want to ask me any more questions!!

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