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Struggling with what to feed!

The puppy comes home next week and I'm struggling with what to feed him. I know after searching, everyone has a different opinion on this subject.

The breeder recommended orijen for dry or primal, Stella and chewy, sojos, or THK for raw. I don't have any concept of how much each bag of these feed and I'd like to get the most for my money (I unfortunately don't have a never-ending supply of cash...I just want to do right by my new little guy). She told me she feeds her puppies raw from the beginning, but that it's a brand she can only get at dog shows. So, I know you're supposed to slowly wean a puppy onto new food...what should I do? Also what are your opinions on those brands? Which (besides the kibble) stretches the farthest? And if i choose to do the kibble, it's not doing any harm, correct...

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feed the best you can afford. Freeze dried raw is the most expensive ,kibble the cheapest.

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Also, along with what Dave said, if you need to keep costs down, there is nothing to say you can't feed kibble one meal a day, and freeze dried raw the other meal. Even a few meals a week of FDR will improve the overall nutrition for your dog.
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I'd like to do better than kibble for him. I just don't understand the freeze dried stuff. Does anyone have a rough idea how long the bags of freeze dried last so i can figure out cost comparison?
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varies depending on your dog and life stages. Four times the price of kibble but four times better . JMO

http://truthaboutpetfood.com/freeze-...-a-difference/
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you might want to start with freeze dried for a while as this is closest to raw . Make sure to hydrate it well when feeding. If you want to add kibble , do it slowly over two weeks.
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My breeder used kibble, now I am mixing it with a frozen raw product to see if it helps with new puppy's hiccups and runny eyes.
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So interestingly...my vet told me to feed dry kibble not a raw diet. That he would never feed his own dogs raw. There's the risk of salmonella and whatever else. And also that they're not wolves and too much protein can be bad too. (And probably more, but I had too much info today that I'm losing some of it)

Does anyone have any research articles I can show him about raw being better? He said he'll read anything I show him...

I told him I was trying HK, but that Opie wasn't interested in it last night, but liked the puppy Orijen. He wants me to keep the Orijen and get rid of the HK.

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Well, as far as I know, freeze dried raw does not have the dangers of commercial or even home made raw diets. (Which are really minimal for people with normal immune systems, and not really a problem for dogs at all. (You have no idea what rotten things dogs can eat and not get sick from!!! )

It is definitely true that dogs are NOT wolves and are NOT obligate carnivores. They can and do process other types of food besides meat. But a GOOD raw diet ISN'T just meat. AND a good quality COOKED diet is very close to a raw diet in terms of nutritional value, and then there is no more risk than what you feed your family every night.

A top quality kibble isn't the worst diet in the world, but the biggest problem with kibble is that dogs who are fed a kibble-only diet very often live their entire lives in a state of mild dehydration. So at LEAST wet the kibble if that is what you choose to feed.

As far as The Honest Kitchen is concerned, they use human grade ingredients, and the food is freeze dried. So it is as safe as freeze dried back packing food, for instance. I have a compromised immune system, due to drugs I must take. For that reason, I won't feed my dogs either home made or commercial frozen raw. I have NO compunction about feeding THK. That was what I fed Kodi regularly until, unfortunately, he developed food sensitivities that required that I feed him a limited ingredient diet. I am THRILLED to see that THK has JUST started producing two different limited ingredient foods that he can eat. I will most likely be going back to that as soon as I finish the (several cases) of very good quality canned food I have on hand!
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That all said, you should START your puppy with whatever the breeder was feeding him, then SLOWLY transition him to whatever new food you choose.


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