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I have only one thing to offer. There will forever be "experts" with opposing opinions. A lot of expert advice has been debunked in my 70 years of life. My sister's friend's parents had a boxer that lived a healthy life for 25 years. A lot of canine nutritionists and veterinarians paid visits to grasp an understanding of this particular dog's life. It boiled down to one thing. They fed the dog all of their home raised meat and vegetables on their remote farm. They fed the dog everything they ate. (No chemicals, additives, blah blah blah.) You can never be sure of a "source" unless you witness the process from start to finish.

I would be interested to hear what you discover on your journey to protect Migo's health. We can all learn from each other but there will always be mitigating factors. Ya never know what those little scavengers will find and snap up and swallow faster than you can blink. (I'm feeding Tux Primal Raw and raw goat's milk). He seems to think there is more to be found to taste test outside on the ground. They definitely keep us on our toes.
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"Why would I go to her when I live right next to the third best vet school in the US?"

AVMA does not endorse raw diets http://healthypets.mercola.com/sites...-practice.aspx
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"Why would I go to her when I live right next to the third best vet school in the US?"

AVMA does not endorse raw diets What are the Benefits of Grain-Based Ingredient in Pet Food?
Dr. Becker is absolutely right here. There are problems, especially because pet food manufacturers dictate what they are taught. I've been aware of this problem, but I'm still willing to see what he has to say about my research. There is an AHVMA DVM's near me as well, and I am considering comparing what they have to say, but regardless I should be able to subject my current diet to criticism from the AVMA DVM so that I can make the most informed decision for my Migo.

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We went to see the nutritionists at CSU and our appointment went pretty well. They cannot recommend a raw diet due to liability and I expected this. The arguments were
  • obstruction from raw bone
  • bacteria from raw meat
  • raw meat diet does not provide fiber
  • fat content

I'm especially not concerned with the first two on that list. A dog's stomach has a pH of like 1-2 and they digest raw food quickly due to the intestines being so short since they are carnivores. Bacteria is much more of a risk for us humans than dogs.

I can see that Migo should have some fiber in his diet. He is currently not being fed any fur or feathers which is what typically provides fiber. I am going to introduce rabbit fur soon. If you feed your dog too much fiber though it actually inhibits digestion (this is from Dr. Becker).

I do, however, watch the fat content that I feed Migo. While essential fatty acids are important, fat should not be more than 10% of his diet.

They looked at his urinalysis, cbc and biochem. All were normal for a growing puppy. They also took an xray so that the radiologist can look at his bone density and overall growth. It was excellent. They also commented that he has good muscles. So far Migo is in great shape.

They are building Migo a diet plan while will be pretty detailed as far as which nutrients are coming from which source and how much of each nutrient is depleted from cooking (therefore requiring supplements). I have no plans to follow it to a T (I'm still feeding PMR) but it will give me a good comparison and let me know if I need to make any adjustments.

I am also seeing a holistic DVM in about a week to have another source of information. So far this process has given me more confidence in knowing that I'm doing the right thing for Migo.

Now if only I can get him to eat his krill oil..

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