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post #1 of 18 (permalink) Old 05-11-2012, 07:20 AM Thread Starter
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Hi Everyone,
I have a pumpkin question for you. Timmy has been eating a combination of dry Blue Buffalo Wilderness™ Duck Recipe and canned Nature's Variety Instinct Grain Free Chicken Formula mixed together. Timmy has had a tendency of developing loose stools, not all the time, but enough to be a pain if you know what I mean. He's been seen by the vet previously, brought stool samples which turned out to be negative and was subsequently put on antibiotics. Recently however, during another bout of pudding poops, I have been adding canned pumpkin to his feeding regiment and he's been fine. So my question is, do I continue adding pumpkin to his meals, or do I need to look into the possibility of finding a new food which allows me to stop adding pumpkin? I don't mind adding pumpkin, but was curious who all out there adds pumpkin consistently to their dog's diet? Obviously I'd rather keep using the food I'm using and adding the pumpkin and not have to call my vet but let me know if you think there are any red flags I could be overlooking and if I should follow up with my vet even though we're back to normal at this point.

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Pumpkin certainly isn't bad for him, but I'd prefer to find a food that didn't bother my dog's tummy to start with. I like to keep the pumpkin in reserve for if there IS a problem of some sort.


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hmmmmm, if he is having loose stools a lot I would look into a change of food, although I know you said you didn't want to do that, BUT you really don't want to be giving him something that isn't agreeing with his body all the time...

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Several months ago I started giving Tucker wet food mixed with kibble. I started adding the wet slowly until I had a mixture of half wet and half day. After a day or so he started having pudding poops. I realized that mix was too rich for Tucker so I reduced the amount of wet to 1/4 of the total mixture. He's doing well on that now. You could try that approach and see how Timmy does. I agree with Karen to use pumpkin only when you need it for diarrhea or constipation.
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pumpkin is fine. my boys get it every meal, but that is because I feed raw and they need some fiber.

can I ask why you are feeding timmy a duck kibble? and why grain free? If he does not have allergies you may want to try a good kibble with a more common protein source. usually duck is an alternative IF you discover allergies. Really no need to use exotic proteins unless there is a problem. I would try natures variety prairie kibble for a pup as young as timmy. I would not try their instinct kibble it is very rich.




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can I ask why you are feeding timmy a duck kibble? and why grain free? If he does not have allergies you may want to try a good kibble with a more common protein source. usually duck is an alternative IF you discover allergies. Really no need to use exotic proteins unless there is a problem. I would try natures variety prairie kibble for a pup as young as timmy. I would not try their instinct kibble it is very rich.
My breeder was feeding him Taste of the Wild Dry Wetlands, which is duck and grain free. He's never had puppy food. I had a hard time finding Taste of the Wild so I decided to switch to another dry food that was similar. He started out on dry food only and I added canned food, which also was grain free, duck. That was my thinking. I give him about one tablespoon of pumpkin twice a day. He likes what he's eating and I figured if I could get him a little more regular with the pumpkin and keeping him on his current food why change? I've always had cats and never really had to worry about what they ate in regards to tummy trouble and now they are both on prescription food so I have no choice... so much to think about!

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If you do not want to change the food feed less of the canned, wet food has a higher water content. I feed dry and a spoonful of wet and mix it in and spread it out in the dish so it takes longer to eat. Just feed a bit less of the wet could make a difference on Timmy's stools.

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You can feed pumpkin daily long term but that's not going to solve the problem if you don't. I'd go with one food , preferably canned. You can rotate every so often. But stick to common sources of protein. Save the more exotic in case alergies develope to one.

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If you do not want to change the food feed less of the canned, wet food has a higher water content. I feed dry and a spoonful of wet and mix it in and spread it out in the dish so it takes longer to eat. Just feed a bit less of the wet could make a difference on Timmy's stools.
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You can feed pumpkin daily long term but that's not going to solve the problem if you don't. I'd go with one food , preferably canned. You can rotate every so often. But stick to common sources of protein. Save the more exotic in case alergies develope to one.
Thanks everyone for your advice! Hmmmmm, okay, I prefer to feed my cats canned food and it's proven to be a great choice, they lost a ton of weight, it seems to be a big "no no" to feed cats dry food because of the carbs. One reason I tried to get Timmy started on canned food was because of my experience with canned cat food. I think I'm going to keep the brand and switch to chicken (gradually). I will start going heavier on the dry and stop with the pumpkin. If that does the trick I'll gradually add canned food until we're half and half again.

I'm so envious of you guys that cook for your dogs, but if I did that for Timmy my family would be even more jealous of him since I don't cook for them half the time! Good thing my 16 year old DD loves to cook and is quite good at it or we would never have a home cooked meal. Timmy is referred to as "The Prince."

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yeah Jen, cats for sure shouldn't be on kibble. I forget which veterinary society even stated this. And it's almost as true with dogs. It's not only the carbs that the cats don't need, it's the lack of water in kibble which leads to urinary problems for some. Dogs are not quite as bad ,but some dogs don't drink enough water on the side., and can have the same issues. Kibble is just so inferior to canned. Better still , get home cooking, but don't forget the humans. LOL.

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