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Primal or Ziwipeak

I like primal for these reason:

No ingredients from China

Made is a USDA human grade faculty

Human grade ingredients

No hormones added

Organic veggies

No grains


Does anyone know if Ziwipeak is comparable?

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Ziwipeak is made in New Zaealan. Main ingrediet if meat from free grazing animals (thats as organic as it can be). Green lipped mussels are added. No grains, only five or six ingredients. It is closest to raw. It is not kibble, but dehydrated meat. Lot of people find it more convenient to feed than raw. It is expensive, but havs need only 70-80 grams per day.
I checked Orijen web page month ago and found out they have new product - freezdried dog food. Maybe you should check that as well.
I have bought Roki Ziwipeak couple of times and he loved it. Problem is that it is not available in my country. I have to drive to neighbouring Slovenia or order it


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Well, here's what it says on their site (which you may already have seen).

For the most part it sounds good. However, I have to say they shouldn't say their food is hypoallergenic because it's natural....if your pet is allergic to chicken or beef or whatever, it isn't because of how natural it is or isn't!

ZiwiPeak sources only the best 100 percent natural ingredients

ZiwiPeak sources only the best 100 percent natural ingredients. Nothing else. And all from green New Zealand pastures and clean New Zealand oceans.

It’s an unconditional focus on the very best. No compromises. No short-cuts. No making-do. The result? Absolute peace of mind that you’re providing your pet with precisely the diet it needs from a trusted source and brand.

Each of our packs provide a single protein source right down to the organs, for instance our Venison comprises venison meat, venison liver, venison lung, venison tripe, venison heart and venison kidney.

Our ingredients have none of the nasties associated with cheaper pet foods. No added sugars, salts, glycerines, antibiotics, hormones, preservatives or carbohydrates such as potatoes, grains, rice, beet pulp, wheat glutens or cornmeal. ZiwiPeak products do not contain BHA, BHT or propylene glycol. All ZiwiPeak products are GMO-free and are hypoallergenic, because all of our ingredients are fully natural.


Our premium quality, New Zealand grass-fed venison is a superb protein source for pets. Pasture raised, not intensively farmed, it provides a new, clean, highly digestible, hypoallergenic food. Venison has plenty of connective tissue, providing regular, digestible levels of chondroitin and glucosamine, nutritionally supporting long-term joint health.


New Zealand lamb. We’re famous for it. Rightly so. New Zealand has perfect conditions for raising the finest lamb meat in the world. ZiwiPeak lamb is a pure source of high quality protein and fats, essential for healthy brain and muscle function.

Green Tripe

We know about keeping the goodness in things. Our green tripe is only cold washed, nothing else. Neither bleached nor scalded, our green tripe retains all its nutritional value. It provides an ideal balance of calcium and phosphorus for your pet, along with protein, fat, enzymes, vitamins and good bacteria to aid digestion and muscular development.

Liver, Lung, Heart and Kidney

Pet heaven. These organs provide a concentrated source of the essential nutrients and enzymes required for a healthy daily diet. Rich in high quality protein, vitamins, minerals and essential fatty acids, they are particularly beneficial in times of growth and reproduction.

New Zealand Green-Lipped Mussel

Joint inflammation and osteoarthritis are common ailments in cats and dogs. New Zealand mussel is a 100% natural source of glucosamine, chondroitin, glycogens and omega 3 fatty acids, with proven ability to nutritionally support long-term joint health. All ZiwiPeak products contain sufficient glucosamine and chondroitin from green-lipped mussels to provide your pet with daily recommended requirements. No need to buy costly additional supplements.


New Zealand is renowned for its expansive, clean, clear coastal waters. Our hoki fish is sourced and caught under New Zealand’s stringent, government-controlled, fish-management system. It provides essential fatty acids like omega 3 and omega 6, which dogs and cats can’t produce themselves, to help build a healthier immune system.

Chicory Inulin

Chicory optimises digestion, supports the immune functions and promotes nutrient absorption in your pet. Everything in ZiwiPeak is there for a reason – a good reason.


A source of choline and inositol, essential fatty acids and sterols, lecithin is good for hair and coat condition as well as heart function.

Parsley (only in our dog foods)

A long-celebrated, efficacious herb, it promotes fresh breath and contains many beneficial vitamins and minerals.


Interesting stuff. Taken daily, kelp may aid in the prevention and/or treatment of thyroid problems, heart disease, digestive problems, weight loss and various other health conditions.

Vitamins and Minerals

Vitamins and minerals are essential daily in low concentrations for proper absorption of fats and carbohydrates and for necessary chemical reactions in your pet’s body. To gain optimum nutritional value, they need to receive them in optimum forms, amounts and ratios.

ZiwiPeak uses chelated minerals. They’re minerals able to attach themselves to amino acids in your pet’s digestive tract, so it will absorb them more fully and easily than otherwise. Improved mineral absorption ensures your pet receives the requirements necessary for optimum health and performance. Excretion of these valuable minerals decreases too, reducing the environmental impact of animal stools. In our air-dried foods we use chelated iron, copper, manganese, zinc and selenium.

The following are the key vitamins and minerals:

Vitamin A

Sometimes known as the anti-infective vitamin, vitamin A has a vital role in controlling the immune function, establishing growth patterns, as well as vision and foetal development.

Vitamin D

This helps to maintain a healthy muscular system by regulating the balance of calcium and phosphate, and facilitating absorption and utilisations of calcium in the intestinal tract. Without it your pet wouldn’t develop strong bones and teeth.

Vitamin E

As an antioxidant, vitamin E prevents damage to membrane structures, defends cells from free-radical or oxidative damage, controls enzymatic processes and protects against pollutants. Vitamin E also assists in the production of red blood cells and aids in the production of energy to feed muscles in the body, especially the heart.

Niacin and taurine (only in our cat foods)

Cats cannot naturally produce some essential nutrients themselves, including niacin (an essential B vitamin), and taurine (to promote healthy functioning of the heart, retina and the reproduction system). Taurine is naturally present in all our natural meat products, but we add additional amounts to our cat foods as cats have a greater requirement for it. All of these nutrients are available in accessible form in our balanced meat formulas.

There are also some others:

ZiwiPeak also includes vitamins B1, B2, B6 and B12 and useful minerals such as copper, manganese, iron, zinc, chlorine, iodine, selenium, potassium bicarbonate and calcium carbonate. A veritable feast of essential elements

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Wow thanks!!! I like primal because they have raw and dehydrated. I'm heading to pet store to see if they carry Ziwipeak. I want to see if Bella, my finicky eater will eat it. I think the cost is comparable to primal. I go by calories and its about the same. I think it's actually cheaper than primal. One scoop is about 270 calories and that's about what my boys get per day. They get 300 plus treats etc

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Emmie's food of choice is ZiwiPeak. I feed her 1/4 can of moist food in the morning and 3/4 scoop of the air dried food in the evening. She's been on this diet for over a year and is doing well. I also give her probiotics once a day and a raw bone (e.g. chicken or turkey neck) once or twice a week. -Jeanne-
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Do you guys like Ziwipeak over frozen raw because its easier?

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Hi Linda,
I use both Ziwi and frozen and freeze dried Primal. Freeze dried is great when we travel. I started with Ziwi about six months ago for variety and also the fact that sometimes he doesn't eat his morning meal and it was such a waste to have to keep pitching the Primal. He gets Ziwi in the morning and frozen Primal at night. The only glitch to frozen is that sometimes I forget to thaw. Primal just came out with something new, Primal Pronto which I might try when I need to get more. Primal also has liver treats which are Tim's absolute favorite, best tool for recall I've ever had

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Sabine , ..."Ziwi Peak Ziwi Peak is a good food as far as quality is concerned, but it is super high in fat and relatively low in fiber, so not all dogs do well on it. I see especially a lot of little dogs 1. overfed on it because feeding portions of super high calorie food are so small and 2. developing loose stools from high fat and not much fiber.

I mainly recommend using it as training treats, since it's quite stinky"

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Ziwipeak portions are small so I measure on a food scale so as not to over feed. Leo loves it and is doing really well on it. I don't find the Air dried to be stink. Poops are smaller and don't smell as bad as poop of kibble fed dogs. Also since it's not messy I think it helps keep Leo's beard cleaner. I had a duificult time getting Leo to eat before Ziwipeak. Now he loves his food and maintains a weight and body portions that seem really right for him. I alternate between the lamb, venison and venison and fish varieties.

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koodos for finding an great food that works for your guy. That's why I generally don't recommend certain foods for people. Every dog is different.

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