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post #1 of 17 (permalink) Old 06-23-2008, 08:10 AM Thread Starter
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I never thought I would be one of these people but Dash is too skinny! While my other dogs are thin as well, for shows I need him to gain weight. My breeder has given me some great advice but I want to get all that I can as he seems to be like his grandmother in this department.

What we have done so far:
- raw satin balls
-cooked satin balls. Dash pushed these off his plate and just ate the kibble <BG> I had to keep the lions at bay until he walked away
-what he likes so far is chicken and rice, beef roast with juice.

Any recommendations for high calorie food, etc. He is on half puppy half adult of high protein food and he likes it. Treats would be great too! (Katie-what was it that you had?)

As Ryan's recommendation for raw, I can't do that right now as we are going to be travel for 2 out of the next 4 weeks. Maybe later.

Thanks everyone, I am trying to be careful I dont end up with a 15lb maltese and a 30lb havanse out of this deal too! Belle and Dora love that I have gone crazy trying new stuff everday. My DH keeps saying Dash is just thin like his daddy and likes to jog <BG> I know he is a growing boy I just need to make sure he has what he needs to grow up as gorgeous as he can be!

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Amanda - oh I feel for you girl. You may not have had him on Satin Balls long enough - it took a full four weeks for me to get nearly 1 lb. on MeMe with most of the weight gain in the last week. I think Katie was feeding Wellness puppy food but that can also cause the runs in some dogs.

I know you've probably tried EVO since that's one of the highest calorie foods out there. What about mixing with the Wellness canned food? It's a really nice high quality food. Another good kibble that people are raving about is Orijen's.

Finally one trick that finally worked for me was to...spoil him where he eats. I feed MeMe in her crate but if she doesn't finish and I need to her keep weight on - I put her bowl on the chair with me and darn if the girl doesn't finish the whole thing. I hate doing it, but she's got to keep the weight on.

As for the treats, the Natural Balance rolls are nice because they've got that extra calorie wheat flour in them if he doesn't have a wheat allergy (which I'm assuming he doesn't since you did okay on Satin Balls). Of course Bailey's K-9 jerky is wonderful but if he's not eating his meals, I'd withhold treats except as an appetite enhancer on top of his food.

Have you tried adding a little warm water to his kibble (1 tbsp max)? Also, sometimes they aren't hungry early in the morning so a bit later giving them back their food can help too. Oh good luck...I know the struggle well.


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I've had two girls that had a lot of trouble with being too thin when they were young, so we had to do this quite a bit in their puppy stage. I don't like handling it often, but I made a game out of working on some very simple commands and treating with chunks of raw Satin Balls. Competition does wonders too! You can do big chunks for Dash and teeny nibbles for the other girls.

Cheese is fattening and doesn't usually cause problems unless the dog has a lactose intolerance.

If his adult teeth are in, remember that you are going to need to brush those teeth with all the soft treats. Satin Balls have a bit of molasses in them too, which sticks to those upper teeth & gums.
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Amanda, I just saw your comments over in the treats thread (linked here). If he really likes chicken, can you try giving him chicken thigh meat instead of white meat? I'd suggest starting small though so you don't upset his stomach if it is too rich for him.
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Kimberly- that is a good idea. My DH was laughing this morning cause while he ate about 1/2 cup of a food soaked in kibble (he didn't eat the cottage cheese!) and then he went running around the yard doing run like hells and grabbed his ball to play. He said well that breakfast is worn off already! I think i might grab some chicken thighs tonight at the store. I have turkey breast in the crock pot right now DH and I are already starting to eat at home more often since this little guy!

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I think Cicero's weight is okay but I have had a time with finding a food he will eat. I've hand fed many times to get him to eat. Used some kibbles teaching -- and many kibbles he will not touch at all. I tried to forget the 'problem' and feed him some of what we had for dinner -- then go back to worring that he is not getting all he needs. DH and I don't get a balanced diet either, but that doesn't worry me. I have come to the reality that he does not like dry foods at all. I've tried adding other things...cheese..water..you name it..and he will still leave the kibble. I have tried raw -- he threw up -- and I would too! I'm about at the bottom of my list of foods -- then I got Wellness Duck and sweet potatoes this weekend and he LOVES it (so far) but this morning was the very FIRST sticky butt I've had to deal with. He does better with a late breakfast and I cooked some rice this morning to add to the food and hope that solves the butt wash problem. His 'okay' weight might be from the "Nature's Recipe" training treats. They are small -- and I even break them into -- but he will do anything for those treats. I think they would/have added some weight. He is 9.5 lbs at 6 months.


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Kimberly already mentioned the cheese,
I'm told potatoes do well to for gaining weight, and most dogs love cheese and potatoes...

Good luck!

I've got the opposite here, my Drama-Queen needs to lose a little weight..... shall I send some over to Dasher

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I find that good ole brown rice and chicked or beef boiled, works great to put on the weight. Also, cheese can cause constipation sometimes, so go easy on that at first until you know how he will react to it. It will take time to get some weight on him, but with your future travel coming up and all they will be doing is eating and sitting, he might put some more on then too. <grin>

When we talked about the satin balls, I forgot to ask you how many times you offered it to him?
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I posted some other tips privately, because they won't make sense to non-show folks. Heck, a lot of show people don't understand it either, but will assist Dasher in multiple ways. It was also along the lines of Kathy's moving comment (eating & sitting) helping him. It doesn't last forever, but some restrictions on him in the short-term will benefit him in several areas.
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We did the raw twice and the meat twice. I also tried giving them plain without kibble. I thought maybe encouragement when Belle ate it would help. Belle at hers and then went over and ate his would give him a competition <BG> I still have a lot left so we will definitely try them again. I think tonight I am going to run to the store and buy some canned food to mix in too. He likes his kibble- evanger and evo mixed pretty well! He loves it with the chicken and brown rice but I think he does run everything he eats off. I know he is still puppy energy but boy oh boy does this guy move on 7 hours of sleep!!!

Thanks for those Kimberly!

He will probably be the most traveled 7 month old puppy pretty soon too so I think that will help a lot Kathy

Suzanne- definitely send it here! I keep joking I am going to have the first 30lb hav cause Dora knows if Dash doesnt eat, we put the food down again soon and you should see her stick to him!

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