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Orijen Dog Food

Hi there, since we had our scare with Lola and found out that we have to really watch her hip (she may need the FHO surgery) I was advised by our Vet to feed her some EFA's, Glucosamine, Chondroiten Sulfate, & MSM. I went this morning and purchased the Orijen Fish kibble and Lola likes it.
My question is, how do I know if she is getting enough EFA's, Glucosamine & Chondroiten Sulfate from the Orijen food? Do you think I still need to supplement with added EFA's, Glucosamine & Chondroiten Sulfate. Also, there isn't any MSM in the food so is that something that I should add too?

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I can't help you with supplements, but we recently switched to Orijen kibble and I've noticed a big jump in Dusty's energy level since we started the Orijen. We're happy with the switch so far.

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I guess you would need to figure out how much of the EFA's etc are in the food and then ask your vet if that's enough. When your vet some "some", how much did he actually mean? You'll need to find out.

You may want to go to the Orijen web site to get a better analysis of the food.

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Hi Joelle, I'm glad to hear about the positive response with the Orijen food. I was actually shocked today to see how large the kibble was - Lola seems to be okay with that though. She's pretty tiny, she's only 6 lbs so hopefully she will continue to enjoy the food.

Daniel, I did ask my vet and his initial response was that the amount really didn't matter, as long as we were getting it into her diet. I think I'm more worried about the amount than I need to be, but that's just me. I like knowing the actual #'s so I can ensure she's getting what she needs. I may just have to see if she seems to have more energy and if she shows less signs of her hip bothering her.

The xray in 3 months should help us determine how she's doing too.

I'm really glad I found this forum though because it gives me alot of comfort to hear about other peoples experiences!
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Hi Sandy , if you want you can talk with Sabine at the following site. She is an excellent nutritionist . She has various consultation packages . Next week I will be getting my Molly's done. I have already filled out a questionaire and emailed it to her. Every dog requires different needs. Her site is really good. She is very good at answering questions. I have emailed her four times already and have had prompt answeres . My basic consultation ,diet based only ,only cost $22 U.S. But it a worthwhile site to read. She refuses to give ratings like some sites do because what might be good for one dog , may not be goood for another. Check it out. http://www.dogfoodproject.com/index.php?page=main

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Hi Dave, thank you again for your information. I read quite a few of the articles on Sabine's website in relation to the EFA's & the Glucosamine & Chondroiten - and I think the Orijen Fish will definitely provide Lola with what she needs. The Omega 6 to Omega 3 ratio is really good and the level of Glucosamine & Chondroiten is really good too considering Lola is only a 6 lb dog. She should actually get all she needs of those supplements too.
Now the only trick is to get her to eat it. As per usual with Lola, she ate it with gusto when I brought it home yesterday and today she's not super interested. I'm still mixing it with her other kibble though and I am going to be the more stubborn in this case. She's going to have to learn to eat it because she needs to - especially for the next 3 months. If at that point it hasn't made a difference for her and we have to perform the FHO surgery we can look at mixing her food up a bit and trying to get the supplements into her in a different way. (I just really prefer she gets it from her food, then as a supplement to her food).

Do you have some particular concerns with Molly? What are you feeding her presently?

Thank you again for sharing your valuable knowledge Dave, you've really helped Lola and I develop a course of action here - both with her food and with her training! Thank you!
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Sandy ,no Molly will eat anything, we give her Evo and cooked human food. Just watch about mixing kibble, Sabine really doesn't recommend it. You can change once in awhile after a few months but if you mix you might be counteracting things. She does talk there about introducing a new food. And you must realize that it takes two to three months to notice a difference sometimes. In your situation I would pay $22 for an assessment. It is more complicated than you and I might think.

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Okay, thanks again Dave. I will get the assessment done, it's a very small price to pay for good health for Lola.

I appreciate your help,
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Sandy,

I am also new to this site. However, what was the scare/ or symptoms Lola
experienced that she may need FHO surgery? How old is she?

I will not get my puppy until April.

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Hi Shelley, it's a bit of a long story - but you can read about it in the Health Questions & Concerns Forum under "Lola's Leg".

Here's the link for you: http://www.havaneseforum.com/showthread.php?t=7572

I'm really glad you found this Forum because the people have been so helpful this past week with my Lola. Rest assured that it was nothing genetic that caused this problem for Lola, but looks like it happened because of injury's that occurred when she was a tiny puppy. (She's only 6 lbs at 9 1/2 months old - so we're guessing the injuries probably happened before we ever got her - which was at 10 or 12 weeks.)

Good luck with your new baby Shelley. One thing I can tell you about Lola is that she is the most loving, happy, confident little dog I've ever had. She loves everyone, every child and every animal. If this is your first Havanese I'm sure you won't be disappointed at all!

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