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Question Prey Model Raw Food Diet

Is anyone here following the Prey Model of the raw food diet?

That is what I am following and I was just wondering what your experience has been. It is all still new to me and I guess I am looking for any advice or suggestions you may have.

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Well I feed raw but not necessarily the prey model. I mix in ground meat and bone, some organs, vegetables and supplements. Sometimes I will use a prepackaged one such as Urban Carnivore.

My guys have been doing great on it. Bogie has been on it for about 2yrs and Brando about 1.5yrs.

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I feed my Beamer commercial raw and raw bones, and still give him extra suppliments to go along with it, such as Nupro and fish oil. He has been doing realy well on it for the past 1.5 years now. As long as Baloo seems happy and healthy and full of energy (and his coat is good), then I'd say your doing great!

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Thanks Ryan and Daniel, I do worry if he is getting enough, I put out 2 - 3 oz in the morning and he usually doesn't eat it all and feed again at around supper time. We goto the vet for the 1st time since his arrival on Apr. 14th and I am wondering what she will say about his diet. I am not sure what the vets here think about the raw diet.

I think I am going to start him on some fish this week for the Omega-3, but haven't been giving him any other supplements. He certainly has lots of engery and seems fine especially since I have only had him for 2 weeks.

How do you give Beamer the Nupro? Sprinkled right on his meat?

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Yeah, dump it on the meat and mix it in real good. If you don't mix it in, it will go all over your floor and his face.. lol

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I have to say... I am now also feeding some commercial raw... but the prey model? I quite frankly do not want my boys developing their prey instinct. I have heard of a friend of a friend who throws her German Shepherds whole chickens feathers and all. and thinks nothing of letting them feed on a dead deer if she finds them on her property. I think this takes the concept too far. I want a companion not a hunter. It also takes a lot on you to make sure they are getting everything they need. just my two cents.




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I live in the city, and I get my meat at the butchers. What I mean by prey, is that I don't supplement or do the raw veggie burgers, or serve the meat ground up, that the BARF diet does. I feed whole chicken legs etc with meat on bone.

Myth: RAW MEAT WILL MAKE MY DOG BLOODTHIRSTY.
What does this mean, exactly? How does feeding a dog what it was designed to be fed make it bloodthirsty? By nature the dog is a carnivorous predator. A dog that chases things (with or without killing them) is just being true to what it is: a dog. Feeding a dog meat is not going to turn a dog into some vicious animal that will attack every living thing that moves.

It is really a personal thing, and I am still learning. I have learnt alot from my breeder and am no expert that is for sure

I am glad that you are feeding some commercial, but if you are feeding kibble, because of the time to digest, make sure your not feeding them to close together.

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Angie, I was just sharing my personal opinion. Of course you have to do what you feel is best for your pup. I was referring to the extremes. And I also worry that some (not you) go into the raw thing half hearted and do not give their dogs everything they need. Just stating that it is a huge commitment! and once you have fed your dog raw (especially prey model) do you think they will eat commercial after that?

I have also heard both from my vet and a canine nutritionist that the digestion rate of raw vs kibble is also an urban myth most dogs can handle it. I do however feed kibble in the am and raw at night




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If you are only feeding whole chicken legs then your Hav isn't getting a proper diet. You are missing organ meat which is incredibly important when feeding raw.

To be honest I find that my guys seem to do better with ground meat with ground bone in rather than feeding full chicken backs and legs. I find that chicken backs and legs have too much bone and tend to upset their stomachs much more easily as they are more likely to swallow larger pieces. I feed my guys chicken necks about twice a week to give them something more to chew on.

As to your vet, they will tell you how bad feeding raw is and will probably try to scare you into buying their food. I know that's what my vet tried to do.

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I live in the city, and I get my meat at the butchers. What I mean by prey, is that I don't supplement or do the raw veggie burgers, or serve the meat ground up, that the BARF diet does. I feed whole chicken legs etc with meat on bone.

Myth: RAW MEAT WILL MAKE MY DOG BLOODTHIRSTY.
What does this mean, exactly? How does feeding a dog what it was designed to be fed make it bloodthirsty? By nature the dog is a carnivorous predator. A dog that chases things (with or without killing them) is just being true to what it is: a dog. Feeding a dog meat is not going to turn a dog into some vicious animal that will attack every living thing that moves.

It is really a personal thing, and I am still learning. I have learnt alot from my breeder and am no expert that is for sure

I am glad that you are feeding some commercial, but if you are feeding kibble, because of the time to digest, make sure your not feeding them to close together.

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That nupro makes quite a difference in the flavour of the food, don't you think? Do you add a touch of water to make a little bit of gravy?

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Yeah, dump it on the meat and mix it in real good. If you don't mix it in, it will go all over your floor and his face.. lol

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