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"Champion" Bred in Muskegon on Petfinder

Tell me what you think of this description. I'm close enough to want to check this out, but I think her description is very negative and not very truthful. Maybe we could suggest changes for her?

http://www.petfinder.com/petnote/dis...petid=12265260

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Christine'sCritterCafe and (small animal) Rescue**Teaching outstanding people (and companies) small pet awareness and accountability through education**

This is 3-4 year old Panda...He is a wonderful and oh so CUTE little dog that needs a home to love him unconditionally. He is a champion bred Havanese-the very TOP of the line/AKC best of breed...Panda is not a hybrid. Expect to have this or any Havanese for up to 15 years. Havanese dogs can live a long time, and must be cared for and kept. Havanese dogs have long, beautiful fur, but it must be brushed and cared for daily. Without proper grooming, Havanese dogs can become miserable.Havanese may be difficult to train. Because of their youthful nature, they are not an easy dog to housebreak and/or train. Make sure you have the necessary patience before you bring a Havanese into your home.Havanese often experience certain health issues. They are particularly susceptible to cataracts, deafness and other common dog problems. Plan on dealing with these issues when they arise if you adopt Panda or have a Hav. Adopting one for a pet is not a short-term commitment.If you are interested, please fill out our LifeCare contract in full and email it to me([email protected])(Info taken from Official Hav.puppy guide.

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I sure wouldn't want a Hav after reading this! Doesn't even sound like the same dog Linus is. He is smart and trains well.

I think the issue with the potty training is that people forget what it feels like to have a small bladder (think 9 months pregnant). I was "potty trained" and almost didn't make it to the bathroom every once in a while when the baby would kick or I would sneeze!
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I agree about the discription being negative it sounds more like she is refering to a puppy not a full grown dog. I would call and or go and discuss it. I am sure they are just trying to inform the potential adopting families but WOW. If I read that and didn't understand the breed I would run and run fast. Don't you need Panda? He looks gorgeous. Why would a champion "bred" dog be at a shelter?

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Sounds like a legal disclaimer if I ever heard one. Poor Panda . . . maybe he already has some issues they are aware of (or the original owner described.) These people need to learn more about the breed than to publish nonsense like that. I would definitely eliminate:

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They are particularly susceptible to cataracts, deafness and other common dog problems. Plan on dealing with these issues when they arise if you adopt Panda or have a Hav.
Maybe they are trying to discourage buyers because someone in the shelter secretly wants Panda

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Now that is a thought.

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OK, newbies. Here's one for you. Some time ago, someone on the forum came across a book called the Havanese Guide, or something similar. I'm sure if you do a search for havanese, you will find it listed. What was most interesting was that many of us from the forum found their pups photos in her book. No, we did not give her permission to use these pictures. She just stole them from the forum. Some were more successful in getting her to remove the pictures, but my Kodi is still in there.

So, if this rescue got a description from her book, I would tell them to do more research on the breed. Panda is adorable though.


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OK- I am going to play devils advocate here. Perhaps they want to weed out the people who are thinking they are getting a deal. Although we all love our Havs--- it is true that many are difficult to house train, they do require grooming, they can have minds of their own, and many are miserable if you leave them alone. If you are a person who has had a lab mix before from a shelter your experience with a Hav is going to be very different.

Perhaps Panda is not house trained and this is a way of revealing that.

I do think they could have shared all this in a more positive way...But I actually applaud them for trying to find someone who is in it for the long haul.




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I completely agree, Missy.

On a side note, every time I see "champion sired" or "champion pedigree" it makes me suspicious. Seriously. How many Havanese don't have champions in their lines? The ones that have to take note of it make me think this is unusual for them (the breeder), so they probably don't do a whole lot to ensure the dogs are as unique as Havanese are supposed to be - temperament & quirks included.
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This looks fishy... and their source is completely wrong...

I hope someone can look into this pup.
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oh wow, he is a real doll. I have to say, though, as a newbie to Havs, I'd run if I saw that description and hadn't spent the last year on this forum reading all about them, good AND bad. I think you can give all those warnings as more of a "heads up" with a bit more positive spin on it, or at least balance it with the good qualities. I realized after doing a lot of self-education on this breed that the downsides were manageable and well worth the "upside" of having a Hav. I mean, I haven't had a chance to actually TEST that theory yet , but I feel quite confident I'm right about it.
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