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Need help! Hav rescue

I'm the new owner of an 8 month old Havanese. The owner -told- me he was 8 months, healthy, potty trained, etc.

Got the dog home and he doesn't know how to play, couldn't make it up my two front steps to my house (literally), is definitely not potty trained,etc. He is also not neutered.

How do I start training of sorts? I got a bell for the door, that's our start. Took him to the vet (still waiting on the results of the stool sample but I suspect parasties, he had a bloody stool this morning.

The owner -said- he ate puppy chow, but I'm not convinced. He went crazy when I ate a potato chip. He's a bit underweight, but the vet said not to worry about it (7 pounds). I'm also concerned about his diet due to the loose stools and blood this morning. His behavior seems very normal. Of course I took him to the vet this morning; he said as long as his behavior is normal let's wait until tomorrow for the stool sample results.

He is absolutely the sweetest dog ever. He is incredibly attached to me. I will go the distance for this dog as I suspect he had a yucky first 8 months. However, the researcher in me was not prepared for this. That is, there is a lot I need to know quickly to help him acclimate to us, and vice-versa. Any insight would be appreciated.

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Hi Amanda and welcome to the forum. it sounds like Cody is going to need a lot of love and patience to start showing his playful side.
I've fostered several dogs and they all come around after awhile.
It will be a lot of work and he's going to need some time to figure things out but within a few weeks you should start seeing him blossom.
Taking to the Vet and having him checked out thoroughly is a great 1st step.
I would treat him as you would any new puppy.
Start out by confining him to a small space and take him potty every hour until he gets on a schedule.
When he pees outside praise him and give him a treat...make sure to make a big deal of it when he does the right thing
If he has an accident and you catch him while going pee/poo make a low Uhhhh!!! sound and bring him outside.
If you don't catch him but find an accident clean the area really well with an enzyme cleaner like natures miracle or simple solution.
If you're sure that he's gone potty and is "empty" you cna let him out to play and eat for 20-30 minutes and then place him back in his crate or x-pen until the next potty break.
Stairs or fear over new things is as simple as providing LOTS of treats and not forcing the issue. I would bring him to the bottom of the steps and give him a small treat...next move back a little so that he has to reach for the next treat...keep inching back until he refuses to take any more treats or come up the steps and tey again later.
He'll make progress if you're patient.

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Amanda:

You are on the right road-getting him to the vet was the first great step-making the commitment to take care of him-love him and be there for him was the second great step. I am sure there will be lots of caring people willing to give you great advise on potty training and how to get him on a good diet. Also if you have the time you can go to www.havaneserescue.com and check out all the great advise they have-lots of links to help you in the care of your new baby.

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Thanks already!

A few more pieces of info. She -said- he was used to a crate. Bought one. He hates it. I absolutely don't trust him at night so I've been putting him in it and offered some Bil-jack treats which he eats. He also doesn't seem to know what a treat it. I bought tons and he doesn't really get excited about them. He eats the Bil-jack kind so I'll go with it.

He does respond really well to praise. A. I think he has a really big bladder (maybe they didn't let him out often?), B. I lavish praise when he does go. From what I understand they're smart dogs and we should have this cleared up pretty quickly (fingers crossed). Perhaps I'll start with the treats when he goes outside...

He's already doing the stairs. We practiced a lot and he picked it up within a day or so. My mention of it was mostly to indicate what he must have gone through prior to us picking him up. He's very proud of himself now when he so readily goes up and down.
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What type of crate was he in at the breeders? I know most of mine like the bigger wire crates, if I were to put them in a smaller plastic crate, I can guarantee they would flip out!
I also think it's normal to have an "adjustment" period when a dog goes to a new home. Doesn't matter if the dog is a 10 week old puppy, an 8 mo old or or a 3 yr old-
It will probably just take lots of patience and love on your part. I am sure once he is more comfortable in his new surroundings he will start to blossom!


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Thanks already!

A few more pieces of info. She -said- he was used to a crate. Bought one. He hates it. I absolutely don't trust him at night so I've been putting him in it and offered some Bil-jack treats which he eats. He also doesn't seem to know what a treat it. I bought tons and he doesn't really get excited about them. He eats the Bil-jack kind so I'll go with it.
Todd was really picky about treats when I brought him home. I tried at least a dozen kinds before figuring out that he wouldn't eat treats with grains in them. I tried some Freeze dried liver and salmon treats and he LOVES them. Also cooked chicken breast, chicken jerky and sweet potatoes (sliced thin and baked) are his favorites. Sometimes he also gets cheese...mozzarella is his favorite
Once you figure out a good bribe only give him his favorites in the crate...reward him for good behavior (being quiet and calm) with a little piece of something yummy and he'll get more relaxed about it.
You can also try feeding him meals in the crate to get him used to it.

It sounds like he's already making nice progress
How long have you had Cody?
When you get a chance we'd all love to see pictures of him.

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Crate: ug. I specifically asked his previous owner which type of crate to buy. She said probably just the plastic one. I did. He also pooped in it last night.


I disinfected it and set it out on the deck. I'll spray it down with the hose before I put him in it tonight. He cries and yelps at night. We were doing our best to ignore it so as to not reinforce the crying with letting him out. We're learning (grimace).

I was also just reading about crates. We bought a medium one (I think it said it was for Yorkies (??). He certainly can't stand up in it and turn around, maybe it's one of the travel ones? Do I need to get one of the wire ones?

On a pleasant note, I worked with him today on a toy. It's a chew toy shaped like a bone, but has plastic on the ends and rope in the middle. He figured out what to do with it this afternoon and just a few moments ago laid next to it and started chewing on it. Effusive praise once more! Yay cody!

I picked him up on Tuesday.
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It took Wall-E a few days to get comfortable enough to play with toys and understand the bathroom routine. He also was a bit confused by the stairs because he hadn't been in a house with them before (lot of ranch style homes out in California). It'll get easier, I promise!!! Just be patient!
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That crate sounds WAY too small for him! I'd say get a wire one but if you still want a plastic one get one that is good for at least 20lbs so that he can be more comfortable in it. He should definitely be able to stand up and turn around in it, if not sprawl out a bit more once he's used to not peeing/pooping in it.

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you know, my breeder suggested a plastic vari-kennel, I got the medium which is about an inch or two larger than the dimensions she recommended, she said it's more like a "den," but I remember my yorkie flipped out at ANY crate. Part of that was my technique for acclimating her to it, or lack of technique I should say.

What about having him in an ex-pen overnight and when you can't watch him? I have a six sided sturdy plastic "Super Yard" ordered online from Target. I'm thinking if he's only 7lb, that would probably be plenty of room and he probably wouldn't jump out. You could leave the kennel inside that with the door open and put some treats or a stuffed Kong in there and see if he'll eventually go in. Otherwise just a nice pet bed and a potty tray with pee pads or something at the other end. Will he use a pee pad as an alternative? Anyway, an Ex-pen is less confining than a crate, and it seems like a lot of people use that option until their dog is reliable enough to be trusted with full run of the house.
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