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post #1 of 20 (permalink) Old 05-13-2009, 08:22 AM Thread Starter
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Can a dog be taken away?

We adopted Murphy from a rescue organization. He was given up by a family on vacation and they provided his AKC papers when they surrendered him to the rescue, the rescue then gave them to me.

I'd like to contact the breeder to ask for health history on his parents but I'm scared they'll tell me I have to give him back to them. When we got Scooter we signed a contract saying we'd return him to the breeder if we couldn't keep him for any reason. I tried to locate the breeder but could only find a home address for them and no listing for their breeding name, makes me think they're backyard breeders.

I filed his papers with the AKC but haven't received them back yet. Is it safe for me to try to reach out to the breeder or can they try to claim ownership of Murphy?

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I don't see how the breeder could come after you since her/his contract was with someone else. However, I don't know if I personally would want to run that risk. He is the cutest thing. Why on earth would his owner have given him up??

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Ann, I hope you get some reassuring information here. I can't imagine it is even remotely legally possible...but I would be just as nervous as you are.

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The lady from the rescue said they had small children and went on vacation, took the dog they'd had only a week with them and then decided they couldn't handle him. She said he was dirty when they brought him in, had dried poo on him and his back legs were yellow. She thinks they were just keeping him in a crate. She was angry and told them so AFTER they signed him over. She said the first thing she did was give him a bath and that he fell asleep in her arms right after. Poor baby, he must have been so freaked out.

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Ann, I don't know the answer to your question, but I keep thinking about Ellen when she rescued the puppy and then gave it away to another family. The rescue found out and came and took the puppy back. If it is a backyard breeder, they may not respond to you anyway. Have you tried entering his information in the havanese registry and seeing if you can get some names of his relatives? Then, you can try to enter them in the OFFA website and see some health info. I have never been able to find anything out on where Dugan came from. Havanese Rescue will not give the papers with the dog. I had some stuff that had a few names on it, but I was not able to locate anything.


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Ann, I wouldn't chance it. My guess is the breeder was not responsive or the previous owners would have taken Murphy back to the breeder after just a week. I also can say... health testing does not always tell you anything about your dog. Cash's parents were tested up the wazoo and he still has mild CD and some other issues. I would say enjoy your pup and deal with any issue that may or may not arise. I keep thinking of Ellen too.




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Ann if you have his papers you could always check the gallery and offa. I am not sure how much you would learn from the breeder. But usually people sign a release with rescue. If you want to pm me, I can help you look

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I forgot about that with Ellen! I think it might be best if I just keep my mouth shut for once. (My husband won't believe I just said that!)

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I didn't copy the paper before I sent it off so I'm going to have to wait to get them back from AKC, should have copied it!!! When it comes back I may ask for your help Amanda.
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Ann, Murphy is not going anywhere! Attorneys are not cheap and feel they were in it for the money only. Karen and Amanda gave good suggestions to try to find out more info.
It is horrible the way the family treated Murphy, thank goodness, they had the sense to give him up. Ellen . . . that whole episode was heartbreaking .
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