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post #1 of 21 (permalink) Old 07-29-2009, 02:40 PM Thread Starter
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Jesse Bit

My 20yo DGD came to help me in the house today. When she was trying to walk into the kitchen, Jesse barked and bit her. While the skin was not broken, it was definitely a bite with very visible teeth marks. Jesse has been our "hand full" child since he would charge and bark when we got him. We have worked with him pretty hard and he did beautifully when I had five younger grands here recently but we really worked to help him and them. I have been gone for several days and they were with just DH; he had several peeing and pooping accidents with them while I was gone but no charging.

A ten year old walks him and she does fine with him but he didn't get a walk today, or really since late last week.

Once he bit Amanda I immediately leashed him and tethered him to me the rest of the time she was here. He did bark seriously at one point and I immediately made him stop.

This really concerns me and I am wondering if any of you have any suggestions to help me help him. I cannot have him "snacking" on the guests!

Of course, the entire thing scared Amanda so she wants nothing to do with him and that closes the door to helping them get along. Very upsetting to all of us.

Since Jesse is a rescue I am hoping someone might have some tips other than what I have thought of doing.
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Please go to the rescue web-site there are a lot of great links there that might be able to help you. And I know we have very knowledgeable people here that will be able to guide you.

Sorry to read about the bite-I don't have any suggestions. But I am sure someone here will be able to guide you.

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Thanks, Miss Paige.
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a little off topic, but if you know of a havanese who does need rescue:

WHAT DO I DO WHEN I HAVE INFORMATION ABOUT A HAVANESE THAT MAY NEED RESCUE? WHO DO I SEND THE INFORMATION TO?

These questions come up often. Here is what you do:

1) If you hear from an individual that has a dog they want to surrender, it's best to send them to our WEBSITE. On the right hand side is a large "button" that says: HAVANESE HELP REQUEST HRI ASSISTANCE. Have the individual fill out the form that pops up when you click on the button.

2) If you have first hand information about a dog needing rescue you can use the same procedure. Go to the website and click on the large button that says HAVANESE HELP REQUEST HRI ASSISTANCE. Please include any contact information and links if possible. An intake volunteer will get more information from the individual or organization with the Havanese and will take care of contacting the state contact as well. You can also write directly to the intake committee using the address [email protected]. Again, include all the contact information and links if possible.

Thank you for keeping an eye open for Havanese in need of rescue's assistance.

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have you talked to Lu Wyland...

She has a lot of experience at HRI, I'll bet she knows...

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Just to avoid any confusion, I am not at all thinking of returning Jesse to rescue; he is a wonderful dog and I don't want to give him up, I want to help him. I will use the resources at HRI to see if they have suggestions beyond what has been offered here and what I have thought of doing. I am a little confused about exactly what the "list" is that some have suggested I write to; is it the e-mail that Rikidaisy kindly posted?

Jesse does very well with the two of us and he did very well with five grandchildren, especially after we really spent a lot of time with him and them getting them socialized together. He does well with the ten year old dog walker. He does not do well when people unexpectedly (well, to him) come into the house and if they approach his "space" (and he seems to have decided that a large part of the house is his space). If Amanda were not returning to college soon and working right now, I'd have her over here every day helping me with him. I know that he would come around then.

I think the best thing for him and us is to recognize that he might always be fearful in a situation with strangers; we will have to lease and keep him by us or confine him until he can socialize to the new people. If it is a repair person, they don't have time to fool with that so he'll be confined.

It's possible that he will grow out of this but I don't think I will ever be really able to completely trust him so I have to change the way I handle him and guests and that is fine. He is not my former dog, Sadie, who loved everyone who came to the door and he is not Shadow, who if fearful, will just run away. We love him and want to do what is best for him while also making sure guests are safe in our home. I know we can do this. We are devoted to him and he just spent an hour curled up with me while I read the paper; six months ago he wouldn't come near me.
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We know you are not giving Jesse up-just wanting to make everyone including him feel safe. And as you know he had such a bad start long before the baby got in HRI and then to your loving home.

www.havaneserescue.com is the HRI web-site. And there are great links there.

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Miss Paige, thanks for the link; I did spend a lot of time last night exploring all the links at HRI and I even saw Shadow on one of the slide shows (videos) and think I saw Jesse but it went by too quickly to be sure. When Jesse's hair is long you can really see his gray mask and that's how I know old photos are his but when it is cut shorter, you can't always make out those cute eyebrows. You would love seeing both of these guys in our home, both curled up with us on the couch this morning. Jesse freely comes up to us for affection now, this is pretty new for him with me (must be all those treats I so freely give him in an effort to bribe him). They are cute, cute, cute. BTW, if I can have your addy, I think I can send you a couple of photos for HRI, if you would like. You can e-mail me at susnchg at hotmail.com (close up the spaces and make at @)
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We know you want to help him!

Chere, there is a list of the HRI volunteers where I can post you concerns and get an answer for you, just email me at [email protected], and I'll post for you.

These gals have lots of information and experience.

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Chere, it is wonderful that you have taken Jesse in and are willing to help him with his fears and socialization. He is lucky to have you! I hope you are able to get some good information at HRI to help prevent bites.
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