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1st time at dog show - with the cutest dog ever!

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Teddy and I went to speculate at the dog show for our very first time yesterday where we saw a lot of lovely people and their dogs (some pretty and some just strange looking!).

We went in as spectators and as the Shaggy dogs show was starting, someone recommended that Teddy be entered. He definitely was the cutest dog there and won 1st prize!!! we were all so proud of him.

He must have got scared as we got the the show (not during the competition luckily - i guess too many people, dogs and lots of noise made him nervous or all the gorgeous acres of green grass was too tempting not to want to RLH on!). I had to chase him for a few minutes across the race course and he came running back to me when I skidded on the wet grass and fell.

He then didn't seem to like a dog who's mom I was having a nice conversation with (he wasn't being bullied but just seemed not to want to socialize with that particuar dog - he wasnt the only dog that didnt like tat little dog) so he managed to open his collar clip (not sure how he did this) and took off again (this was a few hours after we got there). luckily, I just sat on the grass and called him like I usually do when I want to cuddle him and he came running back and got a cuddle and back into his collar (which has now been replaced with a brand new, better quality one).
Very impressed with his behavior towards everyone trying to take pictures of him and the dogs there. No barking, growling or other bad behavior all day!

I know Teddy is not a pure Havanese (even though the breeder is insisting he is) as he is around 15 inches tall (front leg) and 16 inches (back leg), 25 inches from head to tail and around 11 kgs.
He looks Havanese and I was hoping to find someone at the dog show who may have some clue about what he could be. No one was able to guess and the Kennel club were not sure as the person who may have knowledge on dog breeds could not make it to the event.

I dont care about the breed and love him no matter what he is but am just really curious about what he possibly could be.
Would anyone have any guesses at what he could be?

Also, when we were at the show, he seemed to act like all his commands/tricks were alien (even something simple like sit seemed confusing). Could it be him being nervous or something that is normal with so much excitement around?
We dont have dog parks and absolutely no public place (eg malls and restaurants) allow dogs so its not easy to get him used to large crowds. Any advise on how to get him to be more attentive to commands at next year's event?
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CONGRATULATIONS TEDDY ON YOUR FIRST WIN! Ricky was a Champion in the Conformation ring a year ago in the Havanese puppy class and has several ribbons to show for it. However, this next Sunday will be his first show in the Obedience Competition ring and we are both excited.

I don't recall how old your Teddy is, but be very careful how you introduce him and socialize him with other dogs, especially a lot of dogs at the same time. The problem is that you might traumatize him if you throw too much at him at one time and make him fearful of other dogs. Yes, take him to the shows but initially keep him several feet away from other dogs on a tight leash. Don't let other dogs come up and sniff him until Teddy is ready and comfortable for that to happen. He will learn the protocol for interacting with other dogs eventually, just ease him into it by taking him to locations with a lot of people and dogs around, but don't let other dogs come up and intimidate him. Ricky is very cautious but curious when he meets a stranger dog, especially one that is larger than his 14 pounds. He will keep his distance until he determines that the stranger is no danger to him. I supervise the introduction very carefully. Sometimes Ricky wants nothing to do with the stranger and so we just keep walking. I don't force anything. If you want to have a conversation with someone and Teddy is not comfortable with their dog, just pick Teddy up and hold him while you converse and then put him down when you are safely away from the other dog. Dogs can sense more about the intentions of other dogs than we humans can!!!!!!

I suggest you get a harness for Teddy and use that instead of a collar. It is more difficult to slip out of a good harness, plus you wont run the risk of damaging his trachea with a collar. However, here in the US, only collars are allowed in the competition ring - I don't know about Kenya.

Yes, dogs are easily distracted while around other dogs, especially at a show. There is just too much going on around them for them to process all that new information and stimulation. Ricky is PERFECT with his obedience when we are working alone, but he is easily distracted when there is just one other dog around. He is getting much better at concentrating on me through practice, practice, practice with both people and dogs around in close proximity. This type of training takes patience, perseverance, and consistency on your part. It is not an overnight accomplishment. When we go on our walks, we will often meet one of his dog friends. Ricky immediately wants to bolt and go play with them, but I put him in a "sit stay" for maybe 10 seconds with the other dog about 6 feet away and dancing around. Ricky will sit there and glower at me until I release him to play BRIEFLY with the other dog. Continue to take Teddy to shows, parks, and shopping malls, and practice your commands with him, just walking through the crowd. Reward and praise him lavishly when he does what you want.

I don't care what breed Teddy is, if you say he is Havanese, then he is Havanese to me. I hope you weren't injured when you fell. Last winter, Ricky and I were walking early in the morning on a sidewalk that I soon discovered was partly icy. Both feet went out in front of me and I fell on my backside. I was fortunate I didn't crack my head as I went down. It scared Ricky to death and he was very concerned about me. Be careful out there, especially when you have that irreplaceable doggie with you.

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Really cute. He looks like Havanese to me from the little pictures. Are you sure he is a mix and not pure? I'm certainly no expert though. I think he looks like Willow! Congrats on the win!



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Congratulations to the Teddy Bear!!! You two look great together. Looks like a fun day!

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Ricky,
Teddy turned 1 last week.
Thanks for the advise.
We don't have options for socialising Teddy. No dog parks here and he isn't allowed in town or at any shops, malls, restaurants, etc. Dogs here just sit home all day but Teddy is lucky to go to the forest for walks when I have time and gets play dates with neighbours dogs.

I didn't get hurt when I fell. Just a little embarrassed as I had to walk around in muddy jeans all day! Teddy did get worried though.
I don't think he was scared of the dogs. He was so excited and just wanted to play with everyone there! He did seem happy as he was running around when I was trying to catch him! Probably thought it was a game.

Jackie,

I've got absolutely no idea about what Teddy could be. He does look like willow and has alot of Havanese behaviours but the lady at the desk for the Kennel club (at the dog show) and his vet said he cant possibly be pure breed. The breeder swears that he is pure Havanese but didnt register his parents with the Kennel club. I'm just confused about what he could be.

Heather,
We really did have a fun day. I was planning to go in for a few hours, look around and head home but ended up spending the entire day there!
Teddy seemed like he had a fabulous day too. Mostly as all the kids kept coming to play with him and give him cuddles!
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Congratulations to Teddy on his first place win. He's adorable so I can see why he won!
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Congratulations! Teddy is adorable, and a favorite around here after his rough (and scary!) start in life. While it's possible that Teddy is a mix, it's also possible that he IS a purebred Havanese who is just well above the standard in terms of size. There are some of these in the U.S. too. I think that if his breeder is careless enough not to bother registering the puppies he produces, it's entirely possible that he's also not overly concerned about breeding to the standard. Oversized Havanese make every good pets as stanard size Havanese, so it really doesn't matter!

There is a saying in dog training, "If your dog can do a behavior in one place, he can do it in one place." It takes a lot of work to generalize learned behaviors to other settings. If you have a group that puts on dog shows, there might very well be a training club related to it. That's a great place for exposure training. Just be careful, because many trainging clubs have an "old school" compulsion-based style, which is not good for any breed, but especially not for small, temperamentally "soft" dogs like Havanese. But even if you choose to use positive methods regardless of what others are doing in the group, this can be a away to give Teddy needed exposure.

If that's not possible, you can do a LOT, just by taking him to local parking lots and praticing there. Each parking lot will have different distractions. At first, you might have to settle for just having him look at you, give him treats and praise for that, and call it a day. When he starts regulalry giving you that attention as soon as he's out of the car, then start working on just ONE exercize, like sits, or downs or loose leash walking. (Or heeling, if he knows that). If you are patient, his skills will start to generalize, and you'll be able to work in more and more locations.

I am personally not a fan of on-leash greetings or play. Dogs who aren't aggressive in other situations can become aggressive when they know they can't get away because of the leash. Or, if leashes get tangled, it takes only moments for a misunderstanding to turn into a fight. I choose my dogs' play partners carefully, and allow unleashed play in safe, contained, areas like our back yard. When my dogs are on leash, they are either working, or at least giving me their attention. That's not play time.
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CONGRATULATIONS TEDDY ON YOUR FIRST WIN! Ricky was a Champion in the Conformation ring a year ago in the Havanese puppy class and has several ribbons to show for it. However, this next Sunday will be his first show in the Obedience Competition ring and we are both excited.

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Congratulations! Teddy is adorable, and a favorite around here after his rough (and scary!) start in life. While it's possible that Teddy is a mix, it's also possible that he IS a purebred Havanese who is just well above the standard in terms of size. There are some of these in the U.S. too. I think that if his breeder is careless enough not to bother registering the puppies he produces, it's entirely possible that he's also not overly concerned about breeding to the standard. Oversized Havanese make every good pets as stanard size Havanese, so it really doesn't matter!

There is a saying in dog training, "If your dog can do a behavior in one place, he can do it in one place." It takes a lot of work to generalize learned behaviors to other settings. If you have a group that puts on dog shows, there might very well be a training club related to it. That's a great place for exposure training. Just be careful, because many trainging clubs have an "old school" compulsion-based style, which is not good for any breed, but especially not for small, temperamentally "soft" dogs like Havanese. But even if you choose to use positive methods regardless of what others are doing in the group, this can be a away to give Teddy needed exposure.

If that's not possible, you can do a LOT, just by taking him to local parking lots and praticing there. Each parking lot will have different distractions. At first, you might have to settle for just having him look at you, give him treats and praise for that, and call it a day. When he starts regulalry giving you that attention as soon as he's out of the car, then start working on just ONE exercize, like sits, or downs or loose leash walking. (Or heeling, if he knows that). If you are patient, his skills will start to generalize, and you'll be able to work in more and more locations.

I am personally not a fan of on-leash greetings or play. Dogs who aren't aggressive in other situations can become aggressive when they know they can't get away because of the leash. Or, if leashes get tangled, it takes only moments for a misunderstanding to turn into a fight. I choose my dogs' play partners carefully, and allow unleashed play in safe, contained, areas like our back yard. When my dogs are on leash, they are either working, or at least giving me their attention. That's not play time.
Good point! He could be an over sized pure breed. The breeder was quite careless as he is new and imported Teddy's parents from Cuba (so he claims!). It doesn't matter even if he isn't pure breed. I would still have picked him and paid the same amount for him.

Teddy sure is sensitive and even takes days to recover from being yelled at so you are right, tough training would not be good. The kennel club do have a training session weekly but only on a Wednesday morning. I work so its not an option for us but the trainer seemed quite kind so I doubt she would be harsh on him even if we were able to go.

Parking lots do sound like an interesting option. I hadn't thought of that.
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