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Angry Berated for Choosing Purebred

So, as I've said in previous posts - I have been trying to figure out what kind of dog I would be getting for the past year. Well, once I decided on a Havanese I was very excited to tell my friends/family/co-workers. The reaction that I got from them was completely unexpected. Almost every single one of them interrogated me as to why I would not choose to adopt a mutt shelter-dog instead when there are so many out there who already need homes. They also acted like I was silly for being willing to spend so much money on a pup, even though I am much more financially stable than a lot of them are.

I understand that I could rescue a dog, and I understand that I could even rescue a Havanese. However, this will be my first dog that I am fully responsible for and I feel a very strong need to bring this dog home as a young puppy so that I have full control over training. I need to know that whatever bad habits or behaviors show up, it was probably something wrong that I did so I can figure it out and fix it. I also don't think I could handle a dog that is emotionally traumatized or anything like that as my first pup. I have nothing against mutts or shelter-dogs, and I have a lot of respect for the people who are willing to bring them into their loving homes and give them the care they need. I may even adopt a shelter-dog sometime in the future when I have more experience. For now, I just need something a bit more predictable.

So, do you think everyone is within their right to gang up on me like this? Has this happened to any of you?
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awww. don't feel bad. people do seem to take sides in the rescuing vs purchasing a pure breed. Your friends and family "should" not be so hard on you but they are entitled to their opinion. On new people try "I have allergies" and this breed is the only breed I can tolerate. That was my real reason...and I still had to defend it to some who thought there were non-allergenic rescue groups. But with a rescue, you very rarely know their true genetic makeup (and I am actually allergic to poodles)

Bottom line-- you have made the right decision for you so don't let them get to you.




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Yes, this has happened to me too! I got my havanese puppy Lola from a breeder about 2 months ago and feel like some people give me crap for not rescuing [especially when they have a rescue].

My previous doggie Sasha was a rescue. The shelter we got her from told us she was about 3 or 4 years old. We only had her for 3 years and when we finally had to put her down the vet said she was probably 11. She sure did go from 3 to 11 pretty fast! She was a wonderful, loving doggie and I miss her terribly.....but she had so many health problems and my husband & I broke the bank with countless trips to the vet & surgeries. She was never too fond of strangers, especially men in uniform or wearing boots [we think she was either abused or neglected], and she didn't really care for other dogs. In the end she got lymphoma, had bladder stones & her kidneys were barely functioning so we felt it was best to put her down. So this time we decided we were going to get a dog from a breeder whose parents were fully health tested. And....so far, so good except for I think our pup might have allergies.

Who cares what people think! Its your decision and your life! That being said....I will still probably rescue more dogs in the future because even getting a puppy from a trusted breeder isn't a guarantee that you're getting a "perfect" puppy [if such thing exists!]. And although with rescuing Sasha came a lot of heartache, it was so rewarding to know that I gave her a good 3 years. I always felt she was so grateful to have a happy home & it was a pleasure to watch her come out of her shell and become a happy doggie.

Good luck! Don't let those who don't approve get you down!
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At least you are not buying a puppy from the petstore! Buying a puppy from a breeder is the most responsible thing you can do. If this is your first dog, it's better to NOT get it from the shelter because you may not be able to handle the behavioral problems. Your other option is to adopt a rescue puppy from HALO or other Havanese rescue organization. Since it's a puppy, it wont have suffered years of trauma. Our first Havanese was from a breeder. Our second was from HALO. Surprisingly, the rescue one has better health and temperament.

As for the cost, owning a dog can get quite expensive. The cost of the puppy is only a fraction of what it costs for food, supplies, and vet visits. While adoption fee is lower than a breeder's asking price, you may end up spending the difference on more shots and vet visits.

Unless your family/friends/coworkers are actual dog owners, they really shouldn't be criticizing your decision. Good luck with your search!
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I got a lot of grief about buying capote and how much money I paid for him.. but I really had every intention of showing him. Unfortunately he didn't qualify. I raised him from 2 months.. went through the sleepless nights and going down 3 stories for those 3 am walks.. and I wouldn't trade it for the world! I adore him and he really doesn't shed which is great.

...having said that..

...Taylor was my rescue dog that I got from a shelter up in Oklahoma. She has been WONDERFUL! I thought I would have to retrain her and it was going to be hard work. She came in prettymuch completely potty trained. She has some confusion on carpet every once and a while (she's only had an accident once in the past 7 or 8 months) ...but she's better housebroken that I could ever get Capote to be. She wasn't socialized well so she's a lil shy around people, but she's harmless. She wouldn't hurt a fly..hardly ever barks, and loves to snuggle once she warms up to you. She's the love bug I never got with my hyperactive over energetic Capote. She lets me nuzzle her and hug her. Capote just wriggles until I let him go..lol. I think I totally lucked out with her..I expected a 'project' dog, but not at all!!

I got her when she was 8 months old; I fell in love with her with a picture..lol. I think she has a lil shih-tzu in her, but she's very much a Havanese..in temperment, and 90% of her looks. She's just got a shorter snout and legs than capote does so it leads me to believe that. I knew I wasn't going to show a dog..I didn't have to time and there really are so many dogs out there that need loving homes. So many great dogs are killed every year cause there's no room for them and that breaks my heart.

All I'm saying..is it's great either way; good breeder, or rescue. But don't rule out a rescue. No dog is guaranteed not to have problems; even purebreds. Sometimes purebreds can have more problems because their lineage is so limited. There are lots of puppies in 'the system' that you'd still be able to train as a baby...and there's others that turn out to be wonderfully amazing pets. I don't know what I'd do without my Pris. She's my lil angel and I'm blessed to have found her. (and paid a lot less for her in the end than Capote. )

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Hey, the way I see it is that it's your money, your life, and obviously not any of their business! Don't let them put the guilt trip on you. You are entitled to have exactly what you want. If you wanted to rescue a precious little mix from the pound that would be great. If you want to buy a gold plated Labrador that cost $ 1 million, that's your business too.
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Nobody's business but yours!!! Do your homework and buy from a responsible breeder who health tests and properly cares for the dogs. Just don't buy online or from a "puppy mill" situation.

We have one dog we bought from a breeder and a second one who is a rescue. Tell the people who say you should rescue that they can do that or make a donation if they'd like but that you've made your decision.

I'd rather see someone make a responsible, informed decision to obtain a dog from a breeder than to get any dog, rescue or pure bred, and later surrender the dog because they didn't know what to expect.

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I have 3 rescue dogs, 2 Havs and 1 that is a rat terrier mix. We've had Molly (the rat terrier) for about 10 years. She was so shy and skittish when we got her, she's come out of her shell quite a bit. That being said, she still is skittish about certain things and still quite shy of strangers. Darin, the puppy we got from HALO, is doing well. Although, he still doesn't like to come up to us if we are standing, he'll come if we are sitting down. He doesn't have any health issues except for the fact that his legs are bowed and he has a bit of a swayback. Sami was from a pet rescue shelter and she is the most normal acting of the 3. They didn't even know she was Havanese, we learned it from our groomer. Sami is the perfect Havanese except that she is 13 inches tall at the shoulders (a little on the tall side) but we can't figure out why anyone would have wanted to get rid of her!

Someday, I would like to get a Havanese from a breeder, for the same reason as you, that I would be able to train them right from the start and any issues they have would be my fault! Our families get on our case for having 3 dogs. It's none of their business, if that's what we want, so be it!

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Hey, the way I see it is that it's your money, your life, and obviously not any of their business! Don't let them put the guilt trip on you. You are entitled to have exactly what you want. If you wanted to rescue a precious little mix from the pound that would be great. If you want to buy a gold plated Labrador that cost $ 1 million, that's your business too.
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What Ann said is so true. One of the main reason's so many dogs are in shelters is because people didn't do their homework. When a dog has a temperment problem or has health issues many people just take them to the pound. Responsible breeding and BUYING is important. My heart goes out to all the animals in the shelters. I've adopted many through out the years with both good and bad results. It's a GREAT thing to do!
I just wish there was a way to get people to stop buying from irresponsible breeders so they would go out of business.
The personality and health of the dog is the most important of all. These dog's won't end up in the shelters.
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