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Unhappy Incident with Baloo...advice please???

Okay so yesterday DH, Noah and I were playing on the bed with Baloo. I had Baloo in my arms rubbing his belly and Noah (who is 10) got excited because we were being silly and started jumping on his knees on the bed. All of a sudden Baloo jumped out of my arms and sort of attacked Noah and tried to bite his hand. I grabbed him so fast then he tried snapping at him again! I was so shocked, Baloo has never acted like this before. I put him on his own bed and made him stay immediately after and wouldn't let him move until I said so.

Noah started to cry, mostly because he thought Baloo doesn't like him anymore (no broken skin, but a scratch). I feel so bad. About 10 mins later I took Baloo down stairs and sat with Noah and he came over and lick Noahs pants and feet.

I think he thought Noah was going to do something to me, or he just scared him when he started to jump.

I am not sure what I should have done different? Does anyone have any advice on how I should follow-up with both Baloo and Noah? Noah is such a tender heart, he was so heartbroken after this. I just don't want him to start being scared of Baloo.

I would appreciate any advice, espcecially if something like this happened to you...how did you deal with the kids, dog etc. after this?

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I'm not a dog expert... But my parents experience a similar situation sometimes with their poodle. If my dad or my nephews make a sudden movement around my mom he will snap at them sometimes. I think the dog is just trying to protect his master, he is very attached to my mom and has the hav velcro trait. Their dog is very friendly & non-agressive and has never bit anyone. I think you did the right thing by telling him no and giving him a time-out on his bed. Hopefully someone else will be able to give you better advice on how to deal with this.....but just wanted you to know that I've experienced something similar from a non-aggressive dog that loves kids.
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Was Baloo just caught up in the moment and playing? How old is he? I think you did the right thing by putting him in his place. You are top dog. I do think that puppies are like children and anything more than a 5 minute time out is wasted just like you have to catch them peeing on the rug and bring immediate action or they don't have a clue. I'm sure someone more experienced will jump in. I just started reading some dog books to freshen up since I haven't had a puppy in 11 years. Do you think your pup got the message? How has he been since?

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I agree....I think there are times when their "dog instinct" to protect just kicks in. But I think you did the right thing by making him get down so he knows he's not in control...you are. We all mess up from time to time...why should dogs be any different??

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The other thing could be that Noah accidently landed on Baloo which may have startled and/or hurt him. I've seen Tess do the same thing to Cody when he steps on her.

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Baloo was 1 in September, so still pretty young. This was the first incident, and hopefully the last.... Thanks for your support, I appreciate it so much. I love this little guy so much, buy my Noah is my baby and I just hope I handled it right.

I think I am going to get Noah to work with Baloo some more, he was doing some training with him, teaching him to dance, lay-down etc and he stopped. Might be good therapy for them both.

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I think I am going to get Noah to work with Baloo some more, he was doing some training with him, teaching him to dance, lay-down etc and he stopped. Might be good therapy for them both.
Angie, I think this is a great plan. it sounds like Noah was just getting too animated for Baloo and perhaps he was trying to be alpha and put noah in his place. So by encouraging Noah to teach him things, as well as walk and feed him he will become the source of fun and food and therefore place himself in a more dominant position in your pack.

Jasper bit me once when I tried to physically interfere with him and his mail mania. It hurt like hell, but it was more painful emotionally. I was in tears for days thinking that I had not trained him well enough or that he betrayed me... We set right back in to training. And all is fine even though he still gets crazy when the mail comes.




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Baloo was 1 in September, so still pretty young. This was the first incident, and hopefully the last.... Thanks for your support, I appreciate it so much. I love this little guy so much, buy my Noah is my baby and I just hope I handled it right.

I think I am going to get Noah to work with Baloo some more, he was doing some training with him, teaching him to dance, lay-down etc and he stopped. Might be good therapy for them both.
Sounds like Baloo was startled . So long as there were no previous problems between the two of them I wouldn't be too concerned. Generally the best thing to do is nothing. Same as when a dog growls. Simple remove the dog for the moment and do not reprimand because the dog will associate that with Noah. What you want to do is have the two spend some time playing toghether and observe whether there is any apprenhension on Baloo's part. If there was no growling involved (right)? I would guess that Baloo was just startled and made a defensive reaction. I would recommend a very good site for Noah and the family to read. It is by one of our members and is world renowned for its work with children and dog safety. Here is the link http://www.doggonesafe.com/

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Thanks for the link Dave, I am going to go take a look at that site now.

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Angie, I think you handled it very well. I'm also going to take a look at that article Dave suggested because Marble has bit us, including my son, several times.
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