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Izzo is 7.5 months and we still have to watch him constantly. When we take him out of his kennel we immediately take him out to pee and he does. He is still pooping in the house but it is typically in the kitchen where the back door is. He did sneak in my oldest daughter's room this week and peed on her shirt that was on the floor and pooped on the carpet as well. If we are not watching him he has to go in his kennel. Also he is like a little vacuum- we are constantly fishing stuff out of his mouth. If he is eating stuff he's not supposed to then his tummy gets upset and he either throws up or has nasty poop. I try to monitor him as much as possible but with 3 kids it's hard. Just wondering at what point Izzo can have more freedom w/o having to worry about him eating something he's not supposed to or going potty in the house.


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You will always have to watch him as far as eating stuff. Riley is a little vacuum and I've had to induce vomitting with him on one occasion. (Make sure you have hydrogen peroxide on hand and know how and when to use it...)

As for the pooping and inappropriate peeing...I will let others speak to that. I know they can be challenging.... Riley "got it" at about 6 months but I have a doggy door so that helped a lot.

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Nicole: it is hard without 3 kids, so I can only imagine with a full house. Does Izzo seem to have the concept down? I think a big thing with these little guys is communication... Have you taught him a way to let you know? My boys scratch at the door... most sane people hang bells for them to ring. But when I was training We would always ask the same question "do you wanna do your biz?" and take them to the pee pads or outside. Eventually they picked up what "do you wanna do your biz?" means. (although a smart puppy may fake it for a treat..but that's ok) Or is there something he does to indicate he has to go? Cash as a puppy would start acting a little crazy and we would ask the question.

Jasper got the concept right away...he still had accidents, but he knew what made us happy. With Cash we were still not sure at 7 months and we had to be very vigilent. But then finally it seemed to click... Both my boys had a set back at 10 or 11 months...but it was short lived.

If you could set aside an entire weekend to keep Izzo with you at all times and take him out frequently and say what ever you words are and then when he goes...treat, treat, party, party...I think that would go a long way.

As for little vacuum cleaner. I found the best thing was to teach him "leave it" or 'drop it" you need real high value treats for that...Izzo has something he shouldn't, you have chicken..."Izzo Drop it" showing him the morsel. he drops it "good drop it" treat. party.

Hope this helps... These guys can take longer to house train, but the extra effort pays off.




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Izzo does understand the concept of going outside to do his business. We do not use pee pads in the house b/c I think that is confusing. I take him out every 2-3 hours if he's out and about in the house. I will tell him "let's go pee pee" and then I let him out and while he's out there I say "Izzo, go pee pee". If I know it's time for him to poop (he goes about 3x a day) I will then say "Izzo, go poo poo". This morning he had gone to pee but not poop. I was making breakfast and he did go sit near the back door and was looking at me. As soon as I let him out he went to poop. It's just so hard to monitor him constantly with the three kids. Cassie is a piece of cake so I really can't include her in the chaos I guess I am going to have to teach him a way to better let us know when it's "time" to go out, like the bell on the back door (although my crazy kids would probably take the bell or move it) As far as the eating everything, well, he does. I am always getting stuff out of his mouth or saying drop it. This morning I woke up to him having puked in his kennel and it looks like a big hairball. My Golden sheds so the hair is all over the toys they share and he also will chew on her ears. It's frustrating for sure. It really is like having a crawling/walking baby again that gets into everything.


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It's frustrating for sure. It really is like having a crawling/walking baby again that gets into everything.
Oh yes, for sure!! I didn't know if I could make it through some of the puppy stuff. Now that he's a year and a half, I am SO grateful that I have him. Just hang in there...sounds like you are doing the right things and you certainly have your hands full with the rest of your crew!

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Oh boy I just went through this. Just do what your doing and it will click. One of mine, Einstein, got it right away. He has only done his business in the house a couple of times. Watson on the other hand was very frustrating. Einstein would whine when Watson was going in the house! Now they are 6 months old and we haven't had an accident in a month. I heard that Havanese are hard to potty train but I don't think so. Perhaps they are just so smart in other areas that is the perception with the potty thing being late. I think they "get it" quicker than most breeds do. I have two friends with puppies born the same week (different breeds) and they are still working on this issue. Just be patient and consistent with your words and actions. I tried the bell but one was ok with it and one was kind of scared of it. My vet said no treats but I didn't listen. Treats worked with my other dogs. I have one Saint Bernard and my Newfoundland just passed away. I used to take treats out to potty and just as soon as they did their business I praised and treated them. Now I just treat them when we come back in the house. I think that is what worked for us.

As for the chewing on inappropriate things. Be sure to have things he can have at the ready. Give him commands like "leave it", a stern "no" and I make this sound that means I am not pleased and then I give them something that is appropriate to chew on. I also watch them and when they get "too interested" in something I make that sound and say leave it. It has worked for us. I have three kids and they have the run of three rooms and they leave everything that is not theirs alone.

BTW your Izzo is Soooooo cute. Reminds me of my Watson! Good luck!

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Oh boy I just went through this. Just do what your doing and it will click. One of mine, Einstein, got it right away. He has only done his business in the house a couple of times. Watson on the other hand was very frustrating. Einstein would whine when Watson was going in the house! Now they are 6 months old and we haven't had an accident in a month. I heard that Havanese are hard to potty train but I don't think so. Perhaps they are just so smart in other areas that is the perception with the potty thing being late. I think they "get it" quicker than most breeds do. I have two friends with puppies born the same week (different breeds) and they are still working on this issue. Just be patient and consistent with your words and actions. I tried the bell but one was ok with it and one was kind of scared of it. My vet said no treats but I didn't listen. Treats worked with my other dogs. I have one Saint Bernard and my Newfoundland just passed away. I used to take treats out to potty and just as soon as they did their business I praised and treated them. Now I just treat them when we come back in the house. I think that is what worked for us.

As for the chewing on inappropriate things. Be sure to have things he can have at the ready. Give him commands like "leave it", a stern "no" and I make this sound that means I am not pleased and then I give them something that is appropriate to chew on. I also watch them and when they get "too interested" in something I make that sound and say leave it. It has worked for us. I have three kids and they have the run of three rooms and they leave everything that is not theirs alone.

BTW your Izzo is Soooooo cute. Reminds me of my Watson! Good luck!
I just realized...I mean I have three kids and the pups leave all their stuff alone! LOL

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Oh boy I just went through this. Just do what your doing and it will click. One of mine, Einstein, got it right away. He has only done his business in the house a couple of times. Watson on the other hand was very frustrating. Einstein would whine when Watson was going in the house! Now they are 6 months old and we haven't had an accident in a month. I heard that Havanese are hard to potty train but I don't think so. Perhaps they are just so smart in other areas that is the perception with the potty thing being late. I think they "get it" quicker than most breeds do. I have two friends with puppies born the same week (different breeds) and they are still working on this issue. Just be patient and consistent with your words and actions. I tried the bell but one was ok with it and one was kind of scared of it. My vet said no treats but I didn't listen. Treats worked with my other dogs. I have one Saint Bernard and my Newfoundland just passed away. I used to take treats out to potty and just as soon as they did their business I praised and treated them. Now I just treat them when we come back in the house. I think that is what worked for us.

As for the chewing on inappropriate things. Be sure to have things he can have at the ready. Give him commands like "leave it", a stern "no" and I make this sound that means I am not pleased and then I give them something that is appropriate to chew on. I also watch them and when they get "too interested" in something I make that sound and say leave it. It has worked for us. I have three kids and they have the run of three rooms and they leave everything that is not theirs alone.

BTW your Izzo is Soooooo cute. Reminds me of my Watson! Good luck!
Thanks for the advice!!! Your pups are adorable as well. I thought the same thing about Watson (that he looked so much like Izzo) when I saw your photos!!!!! BTW, how old are your kids? Mine are almost 13, 9.5 and 4.5. My youngest LOVES Izzo so much
Oh, and I knew what you meant about the toys (2nd post)


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It does sound like everything is in order Nicole. Just keep at it. It will click. maybe just a little later.

Is Izzo on 2 meals a day yet? switching to that may help make the mid day poo go away. He is old enough at 7.5 months to go to 2 meals.

The bell may help you too. Also, another trick is to let Izzo learn to hold it longer. Will Izzo mess his crate or x-pen? If not, you could try leaving him in there for an hour more at a time. I think when I started leaving my boys longer periods during the day is when they learned to hold it. They had pee pads if they needed it, but they chose to hold it til I got home.

Keep us posted.

Oh and for things that aren't Cassie's hair... Have you tried bitter apple?




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Izzo does understand the concept of going outside to do his business. We do not use pee pads in the house b/c I think that is confusing. I take him out every 2-3 hours if he's out and about in the house. I will tell him "let's go pee pee" and then I let him out and while he's out there I say "Izzo, go pee pee". If I know it's time for him to poop (he goes about 3x a day) I will then say "Izzo, go poo poo". This morning he had gone to pee but not poop. I was making breakfast and he did go sit near the back door and was looking at me. As soon as I let him out he went to poop. It's just so hard to monitor him constantly with the three kids. Cassie is a piece of cake so I really can't include her in the chaos I guess I am going to have to teach him a way to better let us know when it's "time" to go out, like the bell on the back door (although my crazy kids would probably take the bell or move it) As far as the eating everything, well, he does. I am always getting stuff out of his mouth or saying drop it. This morning I woke up to him having puked in his kennel and it looks like a big hairball. My Golden sheds so the hair is all over the toys they share and he also will chew on her ears. It's frustrating for sure. It really is like having a crawling/walking baby again that gets into everything.
This is when the party would start for me, show you are excited to go out then when he goes you have a real Potty Party in the yard (remember to start while he is still going so he know's why you are getting excited) One of the most important things in the world to these guys is to please us, if they know they are pleasing you and making you happy thing's click so much faster, so what if your neighbors think you have lost your mind lol

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