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Momi and Popi have been hosting small groups (4 to 6 people at a time) of friends and neighbors at their home during the holiday season to enjoy some cheer and goodies and our Christmas decorations which are pretty elaborate. Ricky is a party animal and loves to host company, but he has never met any of these people before. He will sound his "barking doorbell" as if to say, "Yippee, we got company, somebody open the door!" But as soon as our guests are ushered inside, he meticulously and methodically goes around to greet each guest with a wagging tail and sniffing to download information about each guest. So far perfectly normal in our opinion.

Now Ricky is not a particularly "cuddly" dog. He has his 4 foot rule - he likes to be near us but prefers his own space about 4 feet away most of the time. We understand and not a problem. Ricky also prefers women to men with one exception and that is his Popi who he is totally committed to.

Now back to our guests....after greetings, everyone will select a seat and settle in for some lively conversation about local stuff. Ricky will walk around the room eyeing each visitor and then he will select one woman who was a complete stranger to him 10 minutes ago and jump up on her lap without warning. This is a bit embarrassing to us but each time the selected woman is more than happy to have Ricky snuggle with her. He will not leave her side for an hour our more! He will be glued to her side whether she is sitting in a chair or on a sofa and just quietly watches the conversation around the room, his head moves and watches whoever is speaking, or he will snooze. He also does something that we call "flirting" with that particular woman only. We know dogs don't flirt but he will do cute things to engage the woman.

We have tried putting him in an adjacent room with a gate up with a Kong filled with vegetables (which he loves) so he can watch us but he refuses the Kong, stands by the gate and whimpers and cries. He gets this look on his face that looks like one of those poor, abused, neglected dogs in the ASPCA commercial! Very annoying! So we try bringing him out with us and either Momi and Popi will make him sit on our lap. Doesn't work, he just whimpers and cries to be let down (still very annoying) to greet people, pick a woman and stick by her side, where he is completely happy!

Do we need to take Ricky to a dog psychologist or is he just a Latin Lover who can't resist hitting on women?

This post is partly in jest, but still Ricky's behavior is not what we consider to be polite and we would like to address this behavior without quelling his social nature.

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yeah it's not good manners but nothing abnormal either. It is something you may not be able to explain but for some reason a certain person may be more appealing . Sometimes it's a smell thing. I think Karen had an example of this too with Kodi?? Try to teach a sit if you see that he is eager to get up on someone and have that person ask for it before he simply jumps up. Females are more readily taken to by most dogs.

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I think you hit the nail on the head, Dave. Not good manners, and something we discourage by trying to redirect, but still all the women seem to be pleased by his focused attention and he is not being obnoxious, he just snuggles quietly next to them. Some of the women do have their own dogs and some not, so I don't think it is simply the dog smells. I do think that some people, both men and women, but more often women, do give off unconscious vibes that dogs can pick up on, that invite interaction with a little cute fluffy creature that exudes love!

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yeah it's not good manners but nothing abnormal either. It is something you may not be able to explain but for some reason a certain person may be more appealing . Sometimes it's a smell thing. I think Karen had an example of this too with Kodi?? Try to teach a sit if you see that he is eager to get up on someone and have that person ask for it before he simply jumps up. Females are more readily taken to by most dogs.
Yeah, Kodi is another "lover boy". He's 6 now, and DOES take "no" for an answer, but lots of people are flattered and charmed by this (which also makes it harder to discourage) So our rule is that he can put his feet on the edge of the sofa or chair where the person is sitting, but he can't get up unless encouraged/invited by them. If they DON'T invite him up, he does this funny, sort of disgusted, snort and THUMPED down with his front feet and wanders off. But honestly? Most people invite him up. He doesn't like to sit on laps (he's a little large for most laps) but he LOVES to lie against the person with his head in their lap, staring up at their face adoringly. He has won over a number of self-proclaimed "dog haters" with this routine.
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I think you hit the nail on the head, Dave. Not good manners, and something we discourage by trying to redirect, but still all the women seem to be pleased by his focused attention and he is not being obnoxious, he just snuggles quietly next to them. Some of the women do have their own dogs and some not, so I don't think it is simply the dog smells. I do think that some people, both men and women, but more often women, do give off unconscious vibes that dogs can pick up on, that invite interaction with a little cute fluffy creature that exudes love!

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Better than cats, who PURPOSELY go for the people who either hate cats or are allergic to them.

But you know, honestly, it's my house and my dog. If people don't like him, they don't have to come. I wouldn't let him make a pest of himself with someone who clearly didn't want him near them, but he doesn't do that.
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yeah women in general are more appealing to dogs, and for sure certain unconscious body language can be more inviting. But I still feel olfactory senses are largely involved when dogs take to someone more easily than someone else nearby. It's their number one stimulator. Karen this reminds me of lady on the walk that Kodi fell in love with.

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Yeah, Kodi is another "lover boy"...........But honestly? Most people invite him up. He doesn't like to sit on laps (he's a little large for most laps) but he LOVES to lie against the person with his head in their lap, staring up at their face adoringly. He has won over a number of self-proclaimed "dog haters" with this routine.
Was Kodi cloned at birth and now reincarnated as Ricky Ricardo? Two "flirtatious" peas in a pod!

But seriously, this is something we will work on with Ricky - to stay down until invited up. Most women and some men will invite him up. He does know the "up, up" command very well, he just needs to wait for it!

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yeah women in general are more appealing to dogs, and for sure certain unconscious body language can be more inviting. But I still feel olfactory senses are largely involved when dogs take to someone more easily than someone else nearby. It's their number one stimulator. Karen this reminds me of lady on the walk that Kodi fell in love with.
Oh, that's right, Dave! I'd completely forgotten about that! Poppi, when we were out on a walk one day, we met up with a woman I know SLIGHTLY, but who had never met Kodi. He was absolutely FASCINATED by her, and got into perfect heel position with her (leaving me in the dust! ) and heeled along with her, never giving me a second glance. She didn't ask him to heel, and I don't even think she realized what he was doing. It was the strangest thing!


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If you sit down in our house, you will have a dog in your lap pretty soon. Nike might be there while you are on your way down.
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