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I have 2 dogs a Havanese and a Shih Tzu, sometimes they play real hard with each other, going at each others faces and trying to bite each other. Is this normal? Some have told me they're trying for dominence but I'm afraid one may get hurt. Any thoughts would be greatly appreciated. Thanks

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When Pixie plays with my mom's tzu Maddie they both do it too. I think, with these two anyway, that it's all in good fun. Once in a while I try to observe them, but it always checks out ok.

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My two play very rough. Dugan sounds like he is killing something and Brady grumbles. Unless I hear a scream (which rarely happens) I don't break it up. Both of them keep coming back for more! Their teeth are always going at eachother. For my two, rough housing is just normal play.


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Hi All,
I have 2 dogs a Havanese and a Shih Tzu, sometimes they play real hard with each other, going at each others faces and trying to bite each other. Is this normal? Some have told me they're trying for dominence but I'm afraid one may get hurt. Any thoughts would be greatly appreciated. Thanks
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Not to pick on you in specific but every time I hear this question it makes me wonder how you would expect dogs to play. I mean all they have is their teeth so what else would they do? Bat at each other? I'm really not trying to be mean here, it just makes me laugh how many people think their dogs are killing each other rather than playing. Trust me, if they wanted to kill each other you'd KNOW. It sounds horrendous when they're truly fighting.

Oh and a good rule to follow is that if they are both coming back for more (equal play) then it's all in good fun. If one is constantly playing and the other is trying to hide or running away all the time (not sometimes as this is also a method of playing, just all the time) then it's not play and you should break them up. Honestly I've only had to break mine up when one of them cried, but even then they had stopped with the one that hurt the other licking the other to make him feel better. They usually can control themselves pretty well.


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It's totally normal. My girls enjoy a good game of bite-face. Just as Carolina said, if both dogs are having a good time, all is well. You will definitely know if it escalates to an actual fight.

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I agree with Lina. So long as they both are willing combatants there probably is no harm done. Here is an article about fighting. http://www.dogstardaily.com/training/fighting-0

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If you ever heard me two when they were playing, you would think they were killing each other. It has never gotten out of hand to a point where one has hurt the other.


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Thank you all for your reseponses. I initially thought it was playing but a friend of mine has 3 dogs and she said her dogs never play that way and said it wasn't normal, so I became concerned. After seeing your responses I can is it is in fact playing. I appreciate your input and advice and thanks for the Link. (I'm going to read it now)

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When I first brought Daisy home, she was three months. I thought Riki was growling at her, but it was her grunting at him. He would throw himself down and she would jump on him and make all sorts of growly sounds and grunts. He loved this. I've had the two of them five years together and only two times has there been a "fight" and it was over a bully stick which I got rid of.

Usually there will be a yelp if one of them gets hurt and the other one immediately stops...and then they go at it again. Even though Riki has about three pounds on her, I think Daisy is definitely the more roudy one. But she lets him know when she has had enough.

When we doggy sit, there is more dominating going on, but no more rough play. Riki will usually try to dominate her or she him if we have a visitor...but the silly play, grunting, growly play biting is part of what dogs do. Especially dogs of similar size.

Little kids always tell me my dogs are fighting. I know what fighting sounds like, I hear it all the time at the dog park...which is why we don't go...

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If you've never owned dogs before, their play can easily sound like fighting and can be quite scary. When we brought Murphy home and he and Scooter started playing I thought they were trying to kill each other and I was scared so I posted here to ask about it. I thank everyone for the kind responses I received to that post that ultimately set my mind at ease. We didn't have a clue so their playing looked scary.

Now that we have the three of them I think it's obvious that they are truly playing. Looks like they're biting but if you watch closely you'll see their jaws don't really close down. It's gotten to the point that I look forward to these times because the noises are so funny!

I hope most of the responses here put your mind at ease, enjoy watching them play!

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