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Tearing and EVO red meat

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I was just given the advice by another Hav owner that after changing to EVO red meat the tearing cleared up. I am willing to try anything (healthy) to fix this. Has anyone else tried Evo with success?

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yeah it's a great kibble.

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This is very interesting to me. Panda tears constantly. I'm washing her eyes at least twice a day. The hair around her eyes is persistently matted due to the tearing. These folks are telling you the EVO red meat kibble cleared up their problem? Is it acceptable for puppies (Panda is 6 1/2 months)?

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I had posted a question on Havanese lovers on facebook about tearing before I found this site. She has 2 white havs that had really bad tearing until she switched to Evo red meat. I am sure it is to good to be true. Scooby currently eats Orijen which he is not to keen on.
I am not sure about pups though.
But I think it is worth a go.

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I spoke to my vet about Roscoe's tear staining. She said that it is a natural pigment that is present in ALL DOGS, some dogs just have stronger pigment than others, and some dogs have hair/fur that is more prone to staining than others.

I asked her about all the rumored remedies - parsley, yogurt, changing foods, etc. She said that while it's possible that a change in diet could help, each dog is different (obviously), so each will react differently to the remedies. She said there is no harm in adding yogurt and parsley to his meals, but did say that many of her Maltese owners have been very happy with the results of Angel Eyes. We decided to do a round of it on Roscoe - it is NOT recommended for long term use, but has a mild antibiotic (tylosine) in it which can help to clear up any bacteria that would be increasing the staining. He's only been on it for about 5 days, but so far his face is a bit drier and I have definitely noticed that the gunky crud is his eyes has been hugely reduced. I wash his eyes out with saline solution and a cotton pad every morning, and they have been much cleaner the last couple of days.
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EVO might work for some dogs because it doesn't have any grain in it. Grain is the #1 cause for allergies in dogs and tear staining can occur because a dog has an allergy.

Angel Eye's works very well. For many, using it for a couple of months will rid the problem forever.

Pigment is the color of the skin, not the tearing which is usually yeast.

Feeding raw also helps.
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I purchased a bag of EVO red meat yesterday. Mixing that with the Natural Balance small bites as I don't want to upset Panda's stomach. I've got about 1/3 of a bag of NB remaining and will use that and supplement with the EVO until the NB is gone. Will let you know if I see any improvement in the tearing.

As a side note I was surprised how little of the EVO to feed - and the high protien content (42%). I'll be interested to see how this experiment works....

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I also just got a bag and I am going to do bottle water also (was doing filtered) fingers crossed Waybrook lets experiment together

Scooby dumped his Orijen on the floor and ate only the Evo. So I hope his tummy will be ok.

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Jo - Panda really likes the EVO also, but we had some significant poop issues last night (in the house of course - heaven forbid she do that outside!). I'm not sure it was the EVO as I saw her chewing on pinecones yesterday - so she may have ingested some that upset her stomach....

We'll keep up on this and see if we see any improvement - interesting about the bottled water - I use filtered with a little OxyFresh in it....

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So far so good for us (touch wood) still not loving kibble. In an ideal world I would feed raw but my dh will not agree as we have a 5 year old and her and Scooby are very close.
I just cleaned Scoobies eyes and just hope this will help him out.
I hope you do better with the toilet issues x

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