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Extra Toes???

I honestly had no clue where to post this, so into general it goes. Are extra toes unheard of in dogs? I know they aren't uncommon in cats, but I've never heard of dogs having extra toes, and I am pretty sure Nino has an extra toe on his two front feet. He was had his dewclaws removed, and he has just the 4 toes on his back feet, but he definitely has 5 individual claws on the front feet, the 5th ones on the inside a little higher up with a tiny little pad. In my frantic research last night, I found that some dogs are just born with two dewclaws; is this probably the case, the vet having somehow missed the other ones (I feel like it is strange that the breeder and two vets would all miss this, especially at just a couple days old)? They are quite tiny compared to the nub of the dewclaw. Is this actually completely normal in Havs, me just having a brain fart? Mario certainly doesn't have them. If it's not a second dewclaw, what might it be? Will it affect his ability to be shown? All of this is so weird to me, so I apologize for the poor wording in this post. Anyone have any explanations?

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I'm waiting on answers for this myself. Intriguing......

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Have definitely heard of polydactyl cats, but never polydactyl dogs. Post a picture, this is fascinating.








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The photo adding ability changed for me, but here it is. We are sending an email to our breeder tomorrow to see what she knows about it. It's quite small and wouldn't even be noticeable without the nail.
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Just reread the breed standard, which says dewclaws may be removed. If this is in fact an extra dewclaw (which, given its positioning, it very well may be), we are fine in the show ring, we just have a unique pup (and a little more Nino to love).

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wow I've not heard of that either. Unless like you say it was double dewclaws but surely they would have seen that when the declaws were removed and done them both. Are you sure his dewclaws were removed? Are they in the same spot as dew claws normally are?
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I had the same thought as DeeDee... Maybe they didn't remove the dewclaws? It sure looks like a dewclaw. Did the breeder say they were removed?

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wow I've not heard of that either. Unless like you say it was double dewclaws but surely they would have seen that when the declaws were removed and done them both. Are you sure his dewclaws were removed? Are they in the same spot as dew claws normally are?
There are very distinct nubs where the dewclaws would have been. He has a vet appointment in a couple weeks, so we'll find out what's happening then, or sooner if our breeder can give us some answers. We'll keep everyone updated!

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It really looks like a dewclaw to me....maybe his weren't removed and that is what you are seeing?

Oh I see Heather already asked this...that is what it would seem to me also.
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In re-reading your original post, makes even more sense his dewclaws were never removed. Double dewclaws are pretty much crammed in there together and it would take a lot of work to take off one and not the other on each foot, they would have had to do that intentionally it couldn't be missed. And there would be no reason for them to leave one and take the other.

Dewclaws do have a little nub of a pad of their own.
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