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I have a problem with my mom's dogs... They're not Havanese but am hoping someone will be able to advise!

My parents have 3 GSDs and a maltipom. They all live outside.

When we visited over Easter, I found out that my brother's GSD (one of the 3 GSDs living with my parents) and my mom's Maltipom formed a gang and are bullying my favourite GSD.
The gang don't want him in their sight and he chooses to sit in his kennel (which is only supposed to be for him to go into if raining). It's hot in there and it's unfair for all the others to be playing in their big garden and not let him join.

Sadly, Teddy ganged up with the Maltipom and was also bullying the rest of the dog pack (including my brother's GSD who is usually the maltipom's body guard!)
I was very mad at Teddy and had to bring him inside to give the others a break from the new gang that was formed by Teddy and the ring leader of chaos (the Maltipom! ?) The Maltipom is the biggest bully even though he isn't even a quarter their size!
Think Teddy is easily influenced but is a nice dog. He gets on with all 3 dogs if the Maltipom is not around.

I really don't want to have to give away the GSD that gets bullied. He's been with us the longest, is around 8 years old and I am quite attached to him.
Too bad I live in an apartment with no garden access so there is no option to take him.

What can I do to help them get along??
They've lived together for a year and nothing has made them be nice to the GSD that gets bullied...
The gang generally ignore the other GSD so she just sits around alone whilst my other GSD chooses to stay in his kennel all day!

I did give him some attention and he got growled at and chased away by the Maltipom

Everyone in the family has a favourite dog there so I would rather not get rid of anyone's pet.
My brother will be taking his GSD back when he relocates later in the year so I assume the Maltipom will no longer have back up to go and chase away the remaining 2 GSDs when his body guard leaves and may be forced to be nice to them.
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Wow not sure what to say! Your mom can't let that dog in the house? Thats crazy!

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I've had similar situations when I had multiple dogs. Rotating which dogs get let out together for "free time" was the only workable solution I came up with. That ganging up behavior can deteriorate into some serious consequences.

The oldest guy in the group is possibly on the receiving end of nasty dominant behavior simply because he is the oldest. It would be sad to see him pay for being on the receiving end of this situation. Dogs don't "play fair" in these dynamics. It really would be best to separate them before the bullying behavior becomes ingrained in the maltipom. Once the GSD he gangs up with is gone hopefully the trio settles back in.



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Thanks Pauline,
The bullied GSD is an absolute softie (basically, an overgrown puppy) that can't even defend his own bowl of food from the Maltipom.
We separate him and the Maltipom (who guards everyone else's food even though he can't finish his own food) so they can all get their fair share of food.
The bullied GSD is not even allowed to drink water from any bowl left outside (there's more water bowls than dogs) so he gets his own bowl of water and food in his kennel.

For now, the bullied GSD gets separated. He's ignored by the female who seems to rather keep away from him than be seen keeping him company. They grew up together so I don't get why she won't keep him company.

The Maltipom loves to bark so he gets brought indoors to sleep as the neighbour's complain that he is ever barking! He is the pampered one so he seems to get away with everything!
None of them like to be indoors with the exception of Teddy.

My main concern was the GSD being lonely. Should I just leave them to handle their own issues or is there something that can be done for the Maltipom and my brother's GSD to include the other 2 GSD in their play?
Not sure if this is something that can be solved by training? We don't have trainers where my parents live so it would be left to me to figure out what to do.

My brother's GSD attacked and almost killed the Maltipom when he was a puppy. The other 2 have never attacked him but he still chooses to be inseparable from my brother's GSD!! Can't understand why.
The Maltipom is definitely the Alpha and my brother's GSD is the beta in the group.
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What is the dynamic if the Maltipom is not around? Perhaps he's the one that needs to be re-homed.
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since you don't have a trainer nearby, you probably have to do the best you can. This is way too complex to analyse without having some professional help. Dogs should not have to defend their food bowls . They need to be fed separately if there is any guarding going on.

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It sounds like the maltipom and your brother's GSD have developed an unhealthy (for the other two GSD's) relationship. Unless someone is willing or able to put the time and effort into separating them the situation will not improve. In fact it most likely will become much worse.

My advice....keep Teddy away from this unfortunate situation. Even with professional help this group of dogs would need a major commitment by you and your family to keep everyone safe.



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since you don't have a trainer nearby, you probably have to do the best you can. This is way too complex to analyse without having some professional help. Dogs should not have to defend their food bowls . They need to be fed separately if there is any guarding going on.
We feed all dogs separately and with their own bowls.

They also have their own water bowls but we have to keep his in his kennel or just outside.
All other dogs are free to drink off each other's bowl but they don't like the bullied GSD to drink from their bowls. They don't bother him if he sticks to his own provided it's not next to theirs.

We do separate them but was really hoping to find a solution to get them to get along.

I would have expected them to gang up on the Maltipom give his size. Didn't expect the Maltipom to be ring leader!

We cant give the Maltipom away, my mom loves him!

The Maltipom hangs out at the front of the garden and leaves the other 2 to hang out at the back.
They don't fight much but the GSD avoids the Maltipom and my brother's dog.
He's generally a happy dog but prefers being with humans (esp me) more than with other dogs.
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