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Too High Protein food Fries Havanese Hair?

A very successful havanese confirmation breeder says too high of protein in the food fries the coat and makes it brittle. Most nutritionists say this is a myth. Are Havanese coats effected by this high protein diet unlike other breeds?
Should Havanese be on lower protein diets since they don't burn the food like a large working dog?
I've just changed to Orijen for our show Havanese and hope we are doing the right thing.
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I'd say thats a myth. Dogs are carnivores and need protein more than anything else. I have both my girls on high protein grain free (Orijen 6 Fish & Wellness Core). I've noticed improvement in both of their coats.
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Renee;
Thanks for your comment. How long have you been on this food? I was between the Orijen and Core. Do you see any difference between the two? Does the Orijen put more weight on? Palability similar? Mine seem to like the Orijen chicken better than the Core fish in a small taste test.
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Definitely a myth! Or at least, not true for most dogs. On the contrary, a higher protein food, esp. one with good quality fish, will enhance a coat, make it shinier and healthier. It's the grains in kibble that will dull a coat (as well as cause other issues).

In theory, the better the quality of food you give your dog, the healthier it should be. Of course, there are a few exceptions from time to time and not all dogs do well on high-protein foods, but Havs are like other dogs. They aren't more or less sensitive to certain types of foods.




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Renee;
Thanks for your comment. How long have you been on this food? I was between the Orijen and Core. Do you see any difference between the two? Does the Orijen put more weight on? Palability similar? Mine seem to like the Orijen chicken better than the Core fish in a small taste test.
I started them out on Orijen Nov 2008 and just started one mainly on the Core Reduced Fat this Oct/Nov. They're both similiar formulas, the only difference I've noticed is on the bag and thats the fat levels. Just keep an eye on their weight because there have been Havs that have lost on Orijen while others gained. You can't always go by those feeding guides either. I started off at 1 cup and it was actually too much for them and probably what started the weight gain. They even maintained that weight gain when I dropped them down to a 1/2 cup! It doesn't seem like a lot but I do mix in other things with their food. Palability they both love it & they're finicky. Now that the one that was the chunkiest has lost while being on Core I have started mixing in an equal portion of Orijen in.

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Even though she's petite, Pix is not idle much. She has loads of energy and, I would think, could process the food just fine. She's been on Wilderness, another high protein kibble, for over a year now. She's a free feeder (a nibbler/grazer) and so far there is no problem with weight. Her coat is in a teddy clip because it's almost as thick as shearling-my little sheep-but it's very healthy. I feel it's working for us so I'm sticking with it.

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Definitely a myth! Or at least, not true for most dogs. On the contrary, a higher protein food, esp. one with good quality fish, will enhance a coat, make it shinier and healthier. It's the grains in kibble that will dull a coat (as well as cause other issues).

In theory, the better the quality of food you give your dog, the healthier it should be. Of course, there are a few exceptions from time to time and not all dogs do well on high-protein foods, but Havs are like other dogs. They aren't more or less sensitive to certain types of foods.
You've nailed it Marj, its not the quantity of protein , its the quality that poses the problem. Here is a good article. http://www.dogfoodproject.com/index....e=protein_myth

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Definitely a myth! Or at least, not true for most dogs. On the contrary, a higher protein food, esp. one with good quality fish, will enhance a coat, make it shinier and healthier. It's the grains in kibble that will dull a coat (as well as cause other issues).

In theory, the better the quality of food you give your dog, the healthier it should be. Of course, there are a few exceptions from time to time and not all dogs do well on high-protein foods, but Havs are like other dogs. They aren't more or less sensitive to certain types of foods.
Yup! Just like how people who have diets rich in protein have healthier hair and nails

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