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Miniature Havanese?

I met a couple at the mall on Sunday with an adorable havanese puppy. They said he was a miniature havanese. I told them I didn't believe there was such a thing?! She replied that havanese come in 3 different sizes, standard, mini and teacup....just like poodles. My husband started arguing that there was no such thing and I just shuffled him along....didn't want to get into an argument with strangers about whether or not their dog breed exists. They were a nice couple and their pup was so cute. I did a quick google search for mini hav and did find some sites referring to minis and teacups....the smaller the dog, the more expensive they were. I think a "mini" or "teacup" havanese is just a breeder trying to pass off a smaller dog as rare or special so they can charge more for it....but maybe I'm wrong?
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You are right, there is no such thing as a minature Havanese. It's just another "designer dog" thing and I really pray for the health of that puppy!
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When I was looking at breeders for my puppy I found several that advertised "mini havanese". I didn't think that sounded right so I decided to steer clear!

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Susie, you and your husband are absolutely right! Some breeders do pass on the tinier puppies as "special" and exclusive, but that isn't the case. Sure, some very small Havs are fine, have no health issues and make great pets, but they are not the standard. Just as the 20-lb'es aren't the standard but make fine Havs.

There are no mini, teacup or tiny Hav in the breed! UGH. This makes me sick.




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Yup, that 'designer characteristic' of teacup or mini only exists with BYB's and puppy mills. (or pet stores, who buy from the mills and byb's)

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I've seen that for maltese and other small breeds, but never for havs until I did an actual search for "miniature havanese". I guess now that havs are getting to be more popular, there are more shady breeders out there.
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Yup, that 'designer characteristic' of teacup or mini only exists with BYB's and puppy mills. (or pet stores, who buy from the mills and byb's)

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^ yep!
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Desilu weighs a very healthy 12 lbs. How much smaller do people want these dogs to get? I have friends who have 3 and 4 pound Yorkies. I literally have fur balls in my house bigger than their dogs.


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Desilu weighs a very healthy 12 lbs. How much smaller do people want these dogs to get? I have friends who have 3 and 4 pound Yorkies. I literally have fur balls in my house bigger than their dogs.
Margaret, it sickens me when people come into the store I work at and proudly proclaim that THEIR new puppy will only weigh 2 lbs as an adult! Sometimes it's a Chihuahua or Yorkie, or even mini poodles, but they want them small and in their minds, the smaller the better.




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And the scariest thing of all, is those little bitty ones often have severe (as in life-threatening) liver problems, among other health issues. Given the definition those who breed them give, my Shadow would have fit their criteria for a mini. A liver that was only 60% normal size definitely contributed to her death at only 8 mos. old

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