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Sorry I haven't been here for a while. I've been busy with life and completely loving the past year with Baci. He turned 1 year old on April 30, and I've never had a smarter, more loving, more playful, devilish, absolutely wonderful dog.

I have never before wanted more than one dog at a time, but I find myself really dreaming about getting Baci a buddy, and us another member of our family. We are seriously thinking of selling everything in about 4 years and full time RVing, and I imagine my husband and myself walking around different campgrounds in the country, each of us with a Hav. Baci already enjoys our trips in our fifthwheel (RV)

So those of you who have more than one, any advice? I prefer neutered male dogs and I would like another boy. Thoughts on two boys in the family? How about timing? I'm thinking of next Spring, when Baci turns 2.

Thank you in advance!

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I don't have two Havanese but I do have two neutered male Pomeranians. They do very well together and even do daily grooming routines on each other. One of them is a benevolent alpha and the other takes his oversight very well.

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I love the boy dogs as well. I have 4 - 2 non Havs - one boy and one girl (big dogs) and 2 male Havs-Leo and Rexy. All 4 get along really well. I know many people are quite content with only dogs but our family has almost always had multiples. I love the relationships that develop between the dogs. We have rarely had dogs that didn't enjoy the company of doggie sibs in the household.
That said if the dogs don't get along it is very stressful to live with. Our first Cardigan corgi was dog aggressive in spite of being well socialized from birth with other dogs. After that experience that lasted the 13.5 years of his life, having dogs that get along well with other dogs has been of paramount importance in my choice of dog additions. Baci, at 1.5 yrs, is a great age to add another pup to the family. If dogs are a few years or older and have been only dogs all along, it can be harder for them to accept a puppy into the family. Not always by any means. I have always found that hringing in a puppy is much easier than introducing a grown dog to the household. That said make certain that you and your spouse both want a second dog. There are many benefits but expenses, grooming time, training time, effort to give both dogs alone time by themselves and with you are all considerations that must be thought through. With one it is incredibly easy to pick up and go whether out to run errands or on a trip. Two is a little more complicated. Leo never got carsick while Rexy does so going out takes more thought and planning. Two means the older one might share positive behaviors with the puppy or it may mean they bring out the worst in each other. Leo is a great chilling companion while Rexy has a big dose of puppy energy that at 9 months is just beginning to calm do at the end of the day he can join us to relax on the sofa a few minutes before calling it a night. We wouldn't be happy with a single dog while others can't imagine life with more than one. Only you and your spouse can say if adding a puppy is right for your household. Two boys though are absolutely no problem!
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I've had dogs my whole life, most have been males. My grandmother usually had pairs, male and female. My mother with pairs, both males. For me I currently have a female, and our last dog that was with her was a male...but if I would get another dog I don't mind the sex as long as the dynamics in the house works well.

We've never had problems with having opposite sex pairs but we did have problems with our male pairs. Not to say it's a bad idea, I think in our situation the second dog was just a little insecure because the first dog was my mom's favorite (she always tried not to play favorites but it was kind of obvious) I noticed whenever we took them on walks, and the first dog pees, the second dog would pee over his mark and try to cover it up. He doesn't like other dogs at all, doesn't matter if male or female.. he will bite when he gets the chance. But other than peeing over the other dog's marks, he does generally well with him and he never tries to be the dominant one. They are like brothers.

Oh, all of our dogs have been fixed. I think you'll find all sorts of answers. It really just depends on the temperament and how they were raised. Some have problems with two males because of alpha roles and dominance, some have no problems at all. I know lots of owners that have 2-3 males, 2-3 females, mixed pairs and all have different situations. But for me, personally I guess I would get one male and one female if I really thought about it. Scully is truly a daddy's girl even though I provide most of her care lol, and our last dog was a male and he was a total mommy's boy. My husband and I both like having our "own" dogs even though we love them all equally
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Sorry I haven't been here for a while. I've been busy with life and completely loving the past year with Baci. He turned 1 year old on April 30, and I've never had a smarter, more loving, more playful, devilish, absolutely wonderful dog.

I have never before wanted more than one dog at a time, but I find myself really dreaming about getting Baci a buddy, and us another member of our family. We are seriously thinking of selling everything in about 4 years and full time RVing, and I imagine my husband and myself walking around different campgrounds in the country, each of us with a Hav. Baci already enjoys our trips in our fifthwheel (RV)

So those of you who have more than one, any advice? I prefer neutered male dogs and I would like another boy. Thoughts on two boys in the family? How about timing? I'm thinking of next Spring, when Baci turns 2.

Thank you in advance!
I think that two neutered males would work very well as long as the breeder takes the temperament and personality of the first one into consideration when recommending a puppy for you. A boy and a girl can work well too. I have most trouble between my two girls (nothing more than snarkiness, and they also play together more than with Kodi, but Kodi NEVER engages in snarkiness with either girl.

I also think that two is the perfect number for RV'ing. We are handling three, and love having them with us, but I was surprised to find that there are campgrounds that have a two dog limit. (though in a couple of cases when I've called and told them how little and well behaved they are, they've said to come anyway) Still, it's something extra to consider when finding places to stay.

I am glad we waited until Kodi had the majority of his training well started before adding a second dog... two are a LOT more work (and a lot more expensive) than one, all the way around! But if you're not doing competitive stuff, my guess is that, at two, Baci will pretty much all he needs to know to be a wonderful family member. We find that even with Pixel, who is really only 8 moths older than Panda... Pixel was a great influence on Panda in terms of learning "house rules".


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Yes, I agree. I was a little nervous about adding a second one. I WANTED another dog, so I'd have another one to continue working with and training when Kodi retires, but I also loved how Kodi was TOTALLY integrated into our lives, and went EVERYWHERE with us.

It's definitely harder to do that with two. (or three ) We think it's important that they all have one-on-one time, so we do make an effort to take just one at a time places with us, even if it's just to do some errands. When we take everyone, it reminds me of going on family outings with toddlers. It's a production... Leashes, harnesses, tagged collars for everyone, poop bags, cookies, enough crates for everyone in the truck (my car only holds my two RTK's so I can't take all three in that) towels in case we get wet, ...And maybe the stroller for the girls, depending on where we're going.

Thinking about it, I would NOT recommend more than two for most people. I think two is very manageable, even for a single person, certainly for a couple. Three is a lot. I love mine to bits, and wouldn't change a thing. I didn't PLAN to have three, though, and unless you are just intending to have them as house dogs (and for some people, that's a fine option!) you REALLY have to think things through in terms of logistics, cost and time.
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Our first Havanese Sparky was 14 years old when we got Scout. Sparky being older with a heart condition wasn't that happy having a bouncy puppy around all the time. I remember Sparky lying on the sofa and Scout running by and jumping at him. Sparky would growl and nip Scout as he passed. Scout thought it was a lot of fun and would run in circles around the sofa and jump at Sparky.
I had planned to get another male puppy, but then Truffles came along. I do like having a boy and girl. Scout is very sweet and quiet. Truffles is a little wild with attitude in the house. When we go out Truffles stays close to her protector Scout.

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I got Lola just a few days after Watson's second birthday. I love having two dogs.....er....most days. What's great is how they're buddies. They entertain each other all the time, though sometimes they get too rowdy. I also don't feel guilty when I have to leave the house for a couple hours when they're with each other. They're fine.
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Great replies! Thank you everyone. I know it's going to be a lot of work, but in the end we'll have a happy mom, dad, Baci and buddy. I wish we were ready now, but a year from now will be fine.
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