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Shampoo recommendations & size of my hav??

First, can someone give me good recommendations for havenese shampoo? I've tried everything but her coat still looks like she has a bad case of dandruff. About the only store close to us is a WalMart so we don't have a lot of options.

My second question: When is a hav at full growth? Our little girl doesn't seem to be growing to much so I'm thinking she is going to be small girl. She is 5 months old and has not shown any great growth spurts in a couple of months. It doesn't really matter to us I'm just more curious than anything.

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If she hasnt grown much in the last couple months, I would really consider getting her into the vet. It sounds like she has something going on with her skin if she has dandruff- and you may want to get a bile acid test done to check her liver function. Sometimes (not everytime) the smaller Havs can have a liver shunt or MVD which causes them to be on the smaller side.
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I don't know a lot about the breeder we got Bella from. We weren't "in the market" for a show dog just a companion for me so we didn't do a great deal of research. Most of the research I did was trying to find a breed for a companion.

We found our breeder on the internet, we fell in love with Bella at first sight from her picture on the breeders website. When she was came home she was just under 2lbs. Her last vet visit about a month ago (for shots) she was a little over 4lbs, not very tall and/or long. I'm not sure if this is a normal growth pattern or not.

The dandruff, I'm thinking, is caused from the shampoo. I've never owned a dog with grooming needs havanese require. I've been trying several different brands/types. I bathe Bells every Sunday. Maybe this is too often.

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I'd get her checked too, she may have really dry skin.

There are lots of websites that have good choices for grooming supplies, sounds like she's not reacting well to whatever you're using now. Also, be sure to rinse all of the shampoo after a bath. Are you using conditioner?

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Welcome to the forum! What is your name? Your Bella is a sweetie.

I agree with Ann, you may not be rinsing her as thoroughly as you should. Try that for starters. Even if you get it at Walmart, make sure your shampoo and conditioner is gentle and for puppies. Don't use as much as you think. You might even dilute it with water. I use to think I needed to get a really good lather going and went through my first bottle of shampoo pretty quickly! I always dilute mine with water now and I found that it cleans just as good and goes further! lol You picked a sweet puppy that will always have a lot of grooming needs. This forum will help you, so don't get discouraged. Keeping her in a puppy cut will also help unless you find yourself enjoying combing your sweet thing.

As much as you might dread finding out your baby has health issues, it would be a good idea to go in for a check-up. The advice you've got so far is correct and it's best you know now before your baby gets really sick. Once you've ruled out any health issues, you can feel better about experimenting with shampoo and healthy food.

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Because Havanese have a "double" coat, it can take a very long time rinsing the shampoo out of the hair. I could be she has flakes because you are not getting on the shampoo and/or the conditioner out.

Being 5 months old and only 4 lbs is something I too would recommend you have checked. As Katie suggested, start with having her liver checked and also thyroid (which could be cause too of the skin concern). The average weight of a Havanese is 10-13 lbs. She might just be a small version of the breed, but typically small in this breed would be considered a 7-8 lb dog.
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Hilda, too, weighed only 4lbs when she was 5 months old, now she is little more than a year old and she weighs 10lbs. She did all the growing between the 6th and 12th month - but I, too, was at a vet and let her check - and thx all was good. So I would, too, recommend to let her check.

Hilda is a bad eater she does not eat everything and I had to try a lot, so that was part of the problem, too.

Concerning bathing: it is way to much to bath her every week - at least with shampoo - this can result in very dry skin and destroys the natural hair and skin protection.

Hilda is - as I said - a little more than one year old - and she was only bathed twice with shampoo (both times she rolled in cow dung - there was no way to avoid shampoing her). If she is just "normal" dirty I just bath her with water - and her skin and hair is beautiful! And if you bath her with shampoo, you really should use conditioner afterwards.


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I'd suggest an oatmeal shampoo, this is really soothing and a great skin moisturizer. I have also heard that this is a great shampoo for dogs with sensitive skin, my vet recommended it to me and I know a number of members use Isle of Dogs products:

Since you don't seem to have a pet store near you, I would suggest ordering some shampoo off the internet and just have it shipped to you. Are you feeding her food from Walmart, too? This could also be causing a problem with her skin, coat, and possibly even her growth. If she is not getting proper nutrition due to a low quality food, it could cause problems in all sorts of areas.

Keep in mind, although the price of these grooming products may be a bit of a shock at first, you really don't need to use that much at all. One bottle will last you a good long time, and it is really worth it!

Also, at 5 months I would say that a bath once per week is a little too much. Roscoe is the same age and he gets a bath every two weeks, unless he is super dirty!! I would suggest making a grooming spray with 6 parts water to 1 part conditioner and grooming her coat with that every day. Brushing her out daily will help to keep her clean and she will be able to go longer in between baths.

And definitely take the advice of the other forum members and get her to the vet ASAP! You can never be too careful with these little babies!

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Welcome to the Forum. There are several threads on the forum that discuss many shampoos and conditioners. I have no experience with dandruff, but know the Isle of Dog has products that are recommended this. I’m sure there are many others. Good luck.

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The best shampoos I've used so far are the Isle of Dogs line (I don't remember the number of the puppy one - might have been #30?) and Plum Silky. I always use a moisturizer for them as well.

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