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Quite often when it comes to problems with food senistivities (the vast majority)/alergies (rare)., is

in large part due to the poor quality, biologically inappropriate ingredients in commercial pet foods

in large part to the poor quality, biologically inappropriate ingredients in commercial pet foods

in large part to the poor quality, biologically inappropriate ingredients in commercial pet foods.

It seems we are always looking for CURES instead of looking for PREVENTION. ... example LID's ( Limited ingredient diets) OR

SPS's ( single protein sources) or or Vet endorsed ( Hypoallergenic Dog Foods) . Yep for every crappy food produced there's a crappy food cure.

here is a bit more info on this The Problem with Allergen-Free Pet Food

And one thing I would like to highlight from this article is that people need to get their dogs on more than one protein source all the time. Rotate between three different protein sources every three months or so. It is also not advised to feed the exotic types in case you need to go to them later because of sensitivities/allergies.

For those of you who have issues I strongly recommend consulting with a nutritionist or a KNOWLEDGEABLE hoistic vet. . Trying to figure these things out on your own quite often leads to more difficulties.

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Good information, thank you Dave.

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Yes great information Dave! In our case I wish i had been feeding her a "bad" diet so we'd have something to fix! She's on a bad diet now and the dang thing is working but I am going to get her off as soon as she is stable for some time and back to home cooking. Totally agree that any home cooked or holistic diet needs to be done with expert supervision.Still wondering if her puppy vaccinations set off the tummy and scratching issues.
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yeah a knowledgable person is worth their fees ten fold. here's one How to choose a Nutrition Advisor - The Possible Canine

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Yes I agree to your post dave. That's why I trust my vet and told me about this kind of information about eukanuba medium breed puppy food that fit for a breed like havanese, and I found out that this is one of the best food in the latest FDA result.
Trusting our vet is the best way to help our dogs with their health, to stay healthy and less sickness.

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Yes I agree to your post dave. That's why I trust my vet and told me about this kind of information about eukanuba medium breed puppy food that fit for a breed like havanese, and I found out that this is one of the best food in the latest FDA result.
Trusting our vet is the best way to help our dogs with their health, to stay healthy and less sickness.
unfortunately I think your vet has given you a poor choice in food. Generally speaking Mars does not make a good dog food. There are much better choices.
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I asked Sabine for her thoughts on this .... here's her reply

"Many dog foods used to be single protein, and sometimes also single carb. They were just not called "limited ingredient" because highly varied formulas were not that common and we didn't have thousands of different brands on the market.

Then at some point in the early 2000s multi protein formulas became all the rage, and it got to the point where many brands marketed formulas that practically contained everything but the kitchen sink. Products had to contain poultry and lamb and fish and eggs and a variety of carbs, for the sake of variety. Toss in a long list of fruit and veggies as well for good measure.

I've been telling companies for over a decade that it's not a good approach because the more ingredients you have in a single food, the higher the chance that some dogs out there react to one or the other. If a dog can tolerate variety, it's much better to rotate between several different, simpler foods rather than giving in to the illusion that you're feeding "variety" if you feed the same multi formula for years on end.

LID foods are the next step in that development, addressing the individuals out there who fare better on simple formulas.

I'm not sure that we really are seeing "more" allergies. The population of dogs has grown drastically over the last 15 years or so, and continues to go up. Things that weren't diagnosed as easily 20 years ago due to lack of knowledge and available technology are now rather routine.

Far too often people also self diagnose what they think are allergies, but more often than not it's really problems caused by poor nutrition (i.e. poor quality food and often stupid supplements trying to compensate), over-vaccination, and overdosing with all kinds of chemicals. All 3 factors stress the immune system a great deal.

Sadly most vets will throw steroids and antibiotics (for secondary infections) at a problem, and maybe replace a "mainstream" food with a "prescription" formula, but it's all just management by band aid fixes. None address the underlying causes. "
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Thanks for the info. Very interesting and consistent with what my dog seems to be telling me lately.
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