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The First Step to End Puppy Mills in British Columbia

Hi.

I was doing my daily check-ups on local news and came upon this article.
I thought this would be great news for dog lovers all over the world.
It's not official yet but it's a great start.

Here is a short excerpt from the online article:
"The city of Richmond, B.C., wants to become the first in Canada to ban the retail sales of animals, prohibiting pet stores from selling live animals, especially dogs.

The Vancouver suburb banned the sales of rabbits in February and wants to take its fight for animal protection one step further.

Ken Johnston, a Richmond City Council member, said the city wants the ban in place to stop pet stores from purchasing puppies from backyard breeders and puppy mills.

"There's a local pet store that buys its dogs from a known US puppy mill," he told ctvbc.ca. "And they admit to it."
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- By: Cheryl Minns, Special to ctvbc.ca
http://www.ctvbc.ctv.ca/servlet/an/l...ritishColumbia

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post #2 of 7 (permalink) Old 03-19-2010, 06:16 AM
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It would be great if that would spread and no live animals could be sold through pet stores. I think many people buy on impulse because they feel so bad for the cute little animals in glass cages, it's so sad. Then they realize they can't handle the pet and it ends up being surrendered to a shelter. People don't realize the commitment they're making when taking on a pet.

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I agree that dogs, cats and probably rabbits shouldn't be sold through pet stores or bred indiscriminately by puppy mill type breeders.

With birds, I think you need to make a distinction between small cage birds and the large hook bills. I know of a few shops that specialize in birds, do a wonderful job with them, sell only top quality stock and work hard to educate their clientel.

Parakeets, canaries and many finches happily live their entire lives in reasonable-sized cages. I have no problem with these smaller birds being sold in pet stores. On the other hand, many people take on a young parrot without giving full thought to the enormous life spans of these birds nor do they take into consideration the ENORMOUS amount of training, time and effort that must be put into keeping these tremendously intelligent animals socialized and mentally stable under home conditions. Nor do they fully realize the noise and mess they make.(they are a MUCH bigger commitment than a dog or cat!!!), Like dogs and cats, many parrots end up either in shelters, or being sold to owner after owner, living lives locked in too-small cages and dying an early death.

However, to say that pet stores shouldn't be able to sell any live animals goes too far. I see absolutely nothing wrong with selling small cage mammals, that can be properly and comfortably housed and care for under retail conditions through pet stores. These same animals (mostly small rodents) are a wonderful introduction to the world of pets and nature for many children. I would much rather see the breeding of these animals take place under controlled conditions than in most pet homes.

Rodents breed like, well, rodents. Pet owners will find themselves quickly swamped with numbers of rats and mice, and hamsters have the disturbing habits of kill mates and eating young if not handled knowledgeably through the breeding process.

Then you get into reptiles and fish and other aquarium fauna. Those are animals too. Is this ordinance aiming at stopping the sale of all aquatic life as well? What about corals? What about live food like crickets, meal worms, brine shrimp and black worms? They are all animals too.

I guess I hate poorly designed, poorly thought-out legislation, even if the original intent was good.


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Ok, sorry. Poorly worded email on my part, I reacted emotionally.

I do wish there was more education for people before purchasing ANY pet from anywhere, that probably won't happen either. I just find it sad that things are treated as disposable and would like to see that change.

I volunteer with a local rescue group and go to Petsmart/Petco and other local shopping centers with dogs and cats that are available for adoption. People are so surprised when we tell them the animals are from high kill shelters and were pulled just before being put down. A majority of the people we talk to don't even know what a high kill shelter is, or they're playing dumb. And this is just dogs and cats. I can't imagine how many other animals are abandoned in some way that we don't hear about. Craigslist has so many listings now for bunnies and baby chicks for Easter. Think of how many of those little things are going to grow into rabbits and chickens that require care, feeding, and are no longer the tiny little cuties they were on Easter morning.

I responded without thoroughly thinking it through, my apologies.

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Ok, sorry. Poorly worded email on my part, I reacted emotionally.

I do wish there was more education for people before purchasing ANY pet from anywhere, that probably won't happen either. I just find it sad that things are treated as disposable and would like to see that change.

I volunteer with a local rescue group and go to Petsmart/Petco and other local shopping centers with dogs and cats that are available for adoption. People are so surprised when we tell them the animals are from high kill shelters and were pulled just before being put down. A majority of the people we talk to don't even know what a high kill shelter is, or they're playing dumb. And this is just dogs and cats. I can't imagine how many other animals are abandoned in some way that we don't hear about. Craigslist has so many listings now for bunnies and baby chicks for Easter. Think of how many of those little things are going to grow into rabbits and chickens that require care, feeding, and are no longer the tiny little cuties they were on Easter morning.

I responded without thoroughly thinking it through, my apologies.
I don't know Ann, I tend to feel the same way about dogs and cats. I have been in Charlotte area in a pet store, and I regret I do not remember which one, and they had an adoption group in there trying to adopt pets. They had applications, etc., and you did not take the pet home that day. The same pet store was selling all kinds of other animals, reptiles, etc...it is complicated in some instances. That is why it is good to post things like you did, to get the other opinions and then decide, thank you for posting that. As I say, my mission would be to wipe out puppy mills which sell to the pet stores and pet stores do buy from them. So you did a good job of making people think! That is what is so great about a forum like this....thanks again for posting this.
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Ok, sorry. Poorly worded email on my part, I reacted emotionally.

I do wish there was more education for people before purchasing ANY pet from anywhere, that probably won't happen either. I just find it sad that things are treated as disposable and would like to see that change.

I volunteer with a local rescue group and go to Petsmart/Petco and other local shopping centers with dogs and cats that are available for adoption. People are so surprised when we tell them the animals are from high kill shelters and were pulled just before being put down. A majority of the people we talk to don't even know what a high kill shelter is, or they're playing dumb. And this is just dogs and cats. I can't imagine how many other animals are abandoned in some way that we don't hear about. Craigslist has so many listings now for bunnies and baby chicks for Easter. Think of how many of those little things are going to grow into rabbits and chickens that require care, feeding, and are no longer the tiny little cuties they were on Easter morning.

I responded without thoroughly thinking it through, my apologies.
No apologies needed, and I agree with everything you've written here! I guess I should have read the ORIGINAL post more closely. I thought you were saying that the legislation they were trying to get through was to limit the sale of all animals in pet stores. I see now that it seems to be limited to cats dogs and rabbits. I agree completely with the cats and dogs... not totally sure about the rabbits. The rabbitries we have around here seem to keep the animals in far "worse" conditions than pet stores do, as they are kept as livestock, not pets at all. Around here, chicks can't be purchased in pet stores, (thank heavens!) and there are minimum numbers for purchase from farm stores (12 I think?) specifically to prevent impulse Easter purchases.


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YES!!! Every time I go home to Richmond I end up in Richmond Centre Mall and I want to rescue the puppies (and other animals) in Pet Habitat and then burn the place down!

My biggest dream in life is to have similar legislation passed throughout the US and Canada. I know it will take A LOT of time, but it's so doable and the rewards are so high.

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