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Difficult 15th week

Hi guy, once again I come on here looking for advice and reassurance.

We had a rocky start with our pup Arlo but for the last 3 weeks he's been settling in to a routine and, despite a few minor issues, has been pretty good..

But the last week or so has been a nightmare. He's waking during the night and/or just refusing to sleep at all. Then there's the biting and chewing on everything. I know that's what they do but the last week has been off the charts. Today's been a terrible day. I have him with me all day and he's being really difficult. Barking at everything and everyone, 'attacking' me (I'm used to bites and nibbles but today's bordered on scary) and refusing to settle in any way. I'm used to him being a little jumpy when he needs to go to the toilet but he's done everything he needs to and is still going at everything.

Maybe it's a phase and I just have to suck it up but it's been very hard to find many positives for the last week and I'd appreciate it if someone could offer any encouragement that it's going to get better!

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What a little demon! I'm definitely not a dog expert, but this is what I'm thinking...Even though he's with you all day, do you think he could be bored? These guys are real smart and maybe he's expressing pent-up energy? Do you have time to do short, 5 minute training sessions with him a few times throughout the day? Add some fun tricks? That may break up the day for him and give some mental stimulation. Maybe even some games to run him, like fetch? How's he doing with your wife? Not sure about not sleeping at night, maybe the pent-up energy again? Best of luck!

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The other thing you need to do is just not LET him do these things. If he is too wild, he gets confined in either his crate or an ex-pen. Period. When he settles he can come out again. It may take a NUMBER of repetitions for him to get the message that this behavior leads to the "n fun zone", but he WILL get it.


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Bless your heart, I bet that is challenging! My Hav will, on very rare occasion, look me in the eye for a long time and then lunge at my face with her teeth bared. It is always when I am combing her beard or muzzle and she is sitting in my lap, and I am wearing glasses. It looks like she is serious to the point that my little mental alarms go off saying, "I'm about to get bitten...". It is disconcerting when your best friend seems to really want to attack you! (I think Mayzie is going after the reflection in my glasses BTW).

I have no great advice except to suggest maybe Arlo would benefit from a half day (or quarter day) at doggie daycare in the morning. My sister does that 3 times a week with her dogs (a labradoodle and a mixed breed lab type dog), and she swears by it. They expend so much energy there that they are much more docile in the evenings with her. She is able to get in training sessions with them without them being complete wildcats.

Another idea - which is not popular amongst the better trainers on this board - is to use a very mild punishment for the inappropriate barking. Either put pennies in a can to shake which is an unpleasant startling sound accompanied by the word "hush", or a squirt of water from a bottle with a very thin stream. The aim is not to hurt Arlo, but rather to make an association between the word hush and some unpleasant reaction. In my view, it is the same as spraying Bitter Apple spray on something to keep him from chewing - it's an unpleasant taste. Again, this is a frowned upon method, but I used it with Mayzie and it stopped her inappropriate barking in about 3 squirts.

Lastly, I would encourage you to strengthen your bond with Arlo by training him in short sessions a few times a day. He will learn to trust you, to look to you for instruction, and to expect to learn from you.

Good luck, and please keep us informed!


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Be careful of doggy daycare for small breed dogs... especially "soft" breeds like Havanese. While SOME GOOD daycares work for SOME Havanese, there are many where it is completely overwhelming, and leads to all kinds of behavioral problems including fear based aggression toward other dogs. Be very careful.

And, yeah, I'm not a fan of pennies in cans or squirting dogs with water... and it really sounds like the barking is the very LEAST of her problems with this pint sized hooligan! I DO agree that short training sessions several times a day areGREAT for bonding, and wonderful for ALL puppies. It's much easier to wear out the brain than the body!


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What a little demon! I'm definitely not a dog expert, but this is what I'm thinking...Even though he's with you all day, do you think he could be bored? These guys are real smart and maybe he's expressing pent-up energy? Do you have time to do short, 5 minute training sessions with him a few times throughout the day? Add some fun tricks? That may break up the day for him and give some mental stimulation. Maybe even some games to run him, like fetch? How's he doing with your wife? Not sure about not sleeping at night, maybe the pent-up energy again? Best of luck!
ditto here's some excercises Training a Hyperactive Dog to Calm Down | Whole Dog Journal
more http://www.dogstardaily.com/training...ite-inhibition

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I can only respond to my own experience which is limited. I have a theory that most pups are born with a built in "fear/survival" instinct. Everything to a puppy is new, and sometimes their enthusiasm/biting/lunging/wild play could possibly signal fear. The human reaction to a lunging or biting behavior is to correct with a non-calming response (a sharp rebuke, a quick move of your hand, or any slight nuance that you may not notice you are doing, but your pup make take it as an action to be wary of, and the excitement/bad behavior escalates.

I have noticed my 9 month old pup is fearful of playful over-exuberant dogs no matter how tiny, young, or playful because of an early experience that did not result in harm, but made him wary that dogs with a certain behavior, might jump on top of him. Yesterday we were sitting by a sidewalk when an enormous bull mastiff walked up. He was 9 years old, and about as calm as an old milk cow. Tux went right up to his face with no sign of fear at all. In other words ENERGY is easily sensed between animals.

So my suggestion, is in addition to the valuable insights you have been given here, pay very close attention to your energy you transmit to your pup. Learn to stay really calm in motions and voice until he learns to be calm himself. Good luck.
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I'm not sure it's likely to be fear in a 15 week old pup... at least I would HOPE that a puppy of this age had not been exposed to much in the way of fear-provoking experiences. (Unless the puppy has an unusually fearful disposition to start with)

However, I absolutely agree that the calmer the owner is in response to this behavior, the easier it will be to teach the puppy to be calm too.


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I went through the same thing with Teddy.

I increased his exercise (ie longer walks and/or jogging) and if he tries to bark and bite me for attention (eg when he wants to play fetch), he gets asked to sit and stay. If he does, he gets praised for it. If not, I walk out of the door or house until he has calmed down (usually 1-2 mins).

I'm not a trainer or expert but I'd assume that you shouldn't have to get used to the biting (playfully or not). Don't allow it completely so he know its never allowed to bite people!
I'd also recommend trying to solve this through more exercise and possibly 5-10 mins a day of training and a short game of either fetch or tug.
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I agree that he sounds bored. We went through a little of the same with the biting. I would look like a pin cushion. I did all the suggestions above. He would also nip and bite when i tried to groom him. My trainer taught me to put a treat in my palm and make a fist with my thumb tucked in. The fist was too big for him to bite but when he would try, I would tell him gentle and when he was give him a treat. It worked. At 7 months he will mouth occasionally but always gently.

At that age, I was frustrated that he had a bunch of toys but only wanted us to play fetch with him. I threw a lot of toys for him to chase. It did allow me to teach him drop it. I would give put a treat in front of his nose, tell him drop it, and he would drop the toy for the treat. Yay!

At around 6 months he started playing by himself. He runs around with toys in his mouth, throws them, fights with them. He can wear himself out. Over the weekend, it was really windy. He spent hours out on our fenced in patio chasing leaves and running zoomies. I was so happy not to be having to entertain him. Of course, he still likes to play fetch with us.

Also, more exercise - physical and mental - may make him settle and sleep better.


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