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Bordetella Vaccine

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I have been thinking about introducing Rudy to doggy daycare 1 or 2 days a week for about 2 hours each visit. I really need to socialize him with other dogs. There is no other dogs in our family or extended family, and there are no dogs in our neighborhood. We have done dog classes, but it's not free play and when he sees other dogs on our walks, he is skiddish. He is 20 months old. I really think it is important for him to romp with other dogs. I have checked out two places that come highly recommended. However they both require the bordetella vaccine. He has never had that vaccine. My vet said that the kennel couph can be easily treated if he gets it. Here is an article about the bordetella vaccine. It's just hard to find a place that doesn't require this vaccine. What are some of the side effects with this vaccine?


http://www.dogsnaturallymagazine.com...cough-vaccine/

Bordetella: Does Your Dog Really Need the Kennel Cough Vaccine? - Dogs Naturally Magazine

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I recently got a puppy and had the same thoughts as you I didn't want him to get more vaccines than necessary and I do not feel that bordetella is necessary however I wanted him to start puppy class and they all require bordetella so since I wanted him to be groomed and socialized I let the vet give him the nasal one luckily he had zero side effects but still hate being forced to give him something I didn't want to
Like you I wish there was a place we could go that didn't require it


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Even most groomers require it. We also had the nasal formula, and had no reaction.
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Scout got kennel cough as a puppy. He had been to the pet hospital for a check up and probably caught it there. For about one week he had a pretty bad cough. I remember the vet said the vaccine didn't eliminate kennel cough. Same as getting the flu vaccine and then getting the flu. ☹️
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I don't know if this helps but here is what Dr. Dodd's has to say about it.

3. Kennel Cough Complex – Bacteria
Bordetella is the most well-known respiratory bacterium and a very common agent to provoke Kennel Cough but does not need to be present to produce Kennel Cough. This is the same with any other inhaled lesser known bacteria, like Bartonella or Mycoplasma, as they too need one or more aforementioned predisposing factor(s) to create actual Kennel Cough.

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So why do many kennels and grooming facilities require Bordetella even though it may or may not be a factor in producing Kennel Cough? My dog is not parasitized, healthy, and up-to-date on viral vaccinations or has high titer levels for viruses.

Answer: It’s usually because of the perceived liability, an insurance issue, or a regional or state law. Essentially, a dog entering a facility could transmit kennel cough-like disease to the other dogs there. BUT, the unvaccinated dog coming into the facility could not transmit anything to others if they were all vaccinated and truly protected, so why not allow minimally vaccinated dogs to enter there, as long as pet caregivers sign a simple paper “holding the facility harmless”, should another dog there get kennel cough a week or so later? Of course, seeing that Bordetella and other upper respiratory vaccines are not 100% efficacious, this whole issue is somewhat moot. In my opinion, we should not be subjecting these dogs to vaccines against upper respiratory viruses or bacteria needlessly, as all vaccines have the potential to cause adverse reactions. Pet guardians who choose not to give these vaccines should have that choice.
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