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Really confused on vaccinations

I just took Ollie to the vet for his last round of Parvo. I didn't know I will not see the vet as it's a vaccination appointment. So, I only see the tech. I asked her when will Ollie get his Bordatella and rabies? She was surprised that he hasn't had one done. She said I will need a different appointment as I am only scheduled for Parvo. I asked her if she could show me how to clean out Ollie's ear hairs as he has a lot. She said she could do it for $20. I said no problem, but she took Ollie out of the room. So, I still don't know how to do it. When she came back, she said she could do the Bordatella if I want. My breeder has reminded me to get Bordatella in nasal form only. But this vet only has the oral form. I am all confused and the tech is not helping also. She said I will need a health appointment to talk to the vet. ????

Question - Should I wait another 3 weeks before I give him Bordatella and Rabies? My breeder said all shots need to be 3 to 4 weeks apart. He is already 16 weeks and I really need to take him out of the house!

Anyone could recommend their vet in San Mateo / San Carlos area? I really don't have a good vibe with my current vet.

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here is Jean Dodds if you want to follow her recomendations. Do you really want bordetella , as it is not recommended by her. Most only get it for daycare requirements. Dr. Jean Dodds' Pet Health Resource Blog | 2016 Dodds Vaccination Protocol for Dogs

Why are you not taking him outside? Has he had ear problems?

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You don NOT need to keep him in the house. Parvo and Distemper are the two biggest health issues, and he is already immunized for them. IMO, you should put off Rabies as long as you can legally in your state. Mine got their Rabies shots right at 6 months, which is the date by which dogs must be vaccinated for Rabies in my state.

I don't EVER give Bordatella. In any form. The vaccine is only marginally effective, and only for 6 months, even though most people only give it to their dogs annually. It is only AT ALL effective against a few of the strains of Kennel Cough that dogs actually get. KC, is like a human cold. It is pretty contagious, but except in the case of very young puppies (who shouldn't be out in public anyway) or ever old or immune compromised dogs, it is just an inconvenience. It is not life-threatening. But vaccinosis, from too MANY vaccines CAN ruin your dog's health down the road.

IMO, the only "reason" for KC vaccine is to save boarding, day care and grooming facilities from being blamed for people's dogs picking up KC. (though they still can! even with every dog in the place having the vaccine!) In fact, the intranasal vaccine causes dogs to shed virus for about a week after it is given... meaning that your freshly vaccinated dog COULD pass the virus to another dog.

The best way to keep your dog from getting KC is to make sure they aren't sniffing noses and butts with un-known dogs, and that you ALWAY provide them with their own water source, not allowing them to "share" public water sources. If they DO get it... It's just like kids in school. KEEP THEM HOME until they are over the cough, and can't pass it to other dogs.
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Please read this article:

AVSAB Position Statement On Puppy Socialization

The window to socialize your puppy to other dogs, humans, & a variety of stimulus is limited and should be done before 12 weeks (ideally); otherwise by 16 weeks, so you need to focus on that right away if you've been keeping Ollie at home.
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I agree with what has been said. Our pups only get one shot at a time and we are waiting as long as possible to give rabies. Jade will get her rabies at 8 months and we will wait that long for the others too.

We only give bordatella when they go to the kennel which isn't very often.

You should talk to your vet. The vet office recommends heartworm and bordatella, we discussed it with our vet as we do not want to over vaccinate.

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I agree with what has been said. Our pups only get one shot at a time and we are waiting as long as possible to give rabies. Jade will get her rabies at 8 months and we will wait that long for the others too.

We only give bordatella when they go to the kennel which isn't very often.

You should talk to your vet. The vet office recommends heartworm and bordatella, we discussed it with our vet as we do not want to over vaccinate.
Just to be clear, though, heart worm medicine is NOT a "vaccine"... and heart worm is a VERY dangerous disease. If you live in areas of the country where it is prevalent, you really do need to decide how you are going to protect your dog. (There are a number of possibilities) Bordatella is completely different. It is a mild illness that the vast majority of dogs recover from without any medical treatment at all.
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About Heartworm, it is not in our area so our vet agreed that our pups did not need to be treated. If we went to an area where they would need heartworm treatment they would get it.
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Thank you all so much for the info. I get more info from this forum than my vet.

I got Ollie when he is almost 14 weeks old. So, he is with his litter and a few adult dogs as my breeder shows her dogs as well. I brought him to the vet the very next day and she said Ollie needs to stay off public ground. So, we have been walking in my own backyard a 4 - 5 times a day. I carried him outside every day for 10 - 15 minutes. So, he could see life outside my house. I have friends over almost every day, so he sees new faces. I don't think I have ever hosted so many parties in my house back to back.

We are going to start puppy preschool this coming Sunday. I can't wait!! He is probably the oldest puppy in that class. By the following week, he will be in the obedience class as he will exceed the age limit for the preschool.

Thank you all again! I will hold off Bordatella for as long as I could. The training school will waive it for puppy class. But, it is a requirement for other classes. I live in California and I just checked the rabies requirement - 4 months of age.
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I just took Ollie to the vet for his last round of Parvo. I didn't know I will not see the vet as it's a vaccination appointment. So, I only see the tech. I asked her when will Ollie get his Bordatella and rabies? She was surprised that he hasn't had one done. She said I will need a different appointment as I am only scheduled for Parvo. I asked her if she could show me how to clean out Ollie's ear hairs as he has a lot. She said she could do it for $20. I said no problem, but she took Ollie out of the room. So, I still don't know how to do it. When she came back, she said she could do the Bordatella if I want. My breeder has reminded me to get Bordatella in nasal form only. But this vet only has the oral form. I am all confused and the tech is not helping also. She said I will need a health appointment to talk to the vet. ????

Question - Should I wait another 3 weeks before I give him Bordatella and Rabies? My breeder said all shots need to be 3 to 4 weeks apart. He is already 16 weeks and I really need to take him out of the house!

Anyone could recommend their vet in San Mateo / San Carlos area? I really don't have a good vibe with my current vet.

Thanks all!!
I highly recommend Adobe Animal Hospital in Los Altos. There are many vets and specialists. The hospital is open 24 hours for emergencies and has an ICU. We have always received great care there.
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About Heartworm, it is not in our area so our vet agreed that our pups did not need to be treated. If we went to an area where they would need heartworm treatment they would get it.
Yup. That's definitely best. We live in an area where there isn't a LOT of heart worm, but there is a risk though the summer months. As a result, we only treat for those months, and not though the cold months where there is no danger of infected mosquitos.
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