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Male or Female Hav????

Do you all feel that males are more laidback and affectionate than females? I know this has been discussed before,but in doing a search I couldn't find the posts. I do remember the phrase "females love you, but males are in love with you" So for those of you with both, do you feel this is true? My Mom is planning on getting a Havanese. She has only had female dogs in the past and would not even consider a male, but a couple people she has spoken in the last 2 days think she would be happier with the personality of a male dog. She wants a sweet, laidback, calm dog.She does not want a dog marking in the house. Do your neutered males mark their territory? Since I only have a female I can't really compare. I tend to think it depends on the individual dog, but lots of breeders do say the males are sweeter, so I'm thinking I must be wrong. Cocotini is sweet and affectionate, but she is demanding about getting attention 24/7. She also has an alpha personality- Mindy puts up with alot from her!!! So, please give me your opinions as my Mom would like to make a decision very soon as to which would be better for her. Thanks for any opinions!!!!

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Although I think individual personality over rides all else, I always tell people males are better pets. Don't get me wrong - I have had some really awesome females - but males are just more into you, more attentive, just easier. I mean, they call them bitches for a reason ;-)

Dogs mark if they are not taught that that is unacceptable. My male will pee on every vertical surface possible outside, but knows that he's not allowed to inside. It is a little harder to train intact males, but totally doable. I had a Mini Poodle female who marked in the house constantly if left to her own devices. It all comes down to house breaking and knowing their limits.

I would try to open her up the possibility of a male, but ultimately, let the personality be the determining factor.

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I thought the same as your Mom!
I went with the personality! I have 2 wonderful males!
PS-Oliver and Comet don't mark but I know some girl dogs that do

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"Females love you, but males are inlove with you". I think it's a wide held belief among breeders of many, many different breeds, not just havanese. I've heard the same from maltese, yorkie, poodle and shepherd breeders. I think that this famous saying got started by the fact that most breeders (of different breeds) have more males born than females. A breeder only needs one or two really exceptional males, but can definitely have more females.

When my friend was looking for a maltese from a reputable breeder, the breeder pretty much told her that she is very likely to put a show quality male into a pet home, but will sit on a female even if she is questionable, just to make sure.

While I love and prefer males, my Havanese is not a lap dog and is very, very independent. Don't get me wrong, he always sleeps with one eye open and follows me around from room to room, and will sit at the door and whine if I am gone. But, he prefers to sit byhimself. He is my "next to me" not "on top of me" dog.

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Buy from a good breeder who knows the personalities of the dogs!

I love my boys! I chose boys "because boys fall in love with you." I haven't had any marking issues. Dexter is neutered. He will mark occasionally if we go for a walk down the street. Most of the time, I will not allow marking when we are out walking. He voids 99% of the time in squat position.

Some owners will choose males over females due to the anatomy of the dog. With the Hav having shaggy hair and with the boys being neutered, I have not had to deal with the problem that some breeders have a problem with....Males are sweet and playful and love to sit next to you.....

I guess it is all in how you raise your Havs growing up. This is my 2 cents worth....



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"Females love you, but males are inlove with you". I think it's a wide held belief among breeders of many, many different breeds, not just havanese. I've heard the same from maltese, yorkie, poodle and shepherd breeders.
You can add Chinese Cresteds to that list too. When my boys come to me they have an adoring look in their eyes, but when Phoebe comes to me it's all about her. We should have named her "MeMe"!

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I haven't had any marking issues. Dexter is neutered. He will mark occasionally if we go for a walk down the street. Most of the time, I will not allow marking when we are out walking. He voids 99% of the time in squat position.
Linda, it's the same with my boys, no problems in the house and Rufus may wish to mark on walks. Marley never even desires to mark when we walk, but I have a female Crestie that will mark every tree and corner if she gets the chance!
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In most of the animal kingdom the main job of a male is to pass on his genes. So, to accomplish that he needs to be appealing/interesting enough to a female to have her allow him to breed with her. The best way to win her over is to be sweet, adoring, loving, kind, etc., etc. With that as his "job", IMO, the males will most often have the nicer temperament/personalities.

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We have a male and a female. We got Daisy first and added Beau a year later. Daisy is the alpha of the two. Beau will get in my lap or lie right next to me with his head on my lap. He is protective: more aware of what's going on around the house and quick to "alert" us. If Daisy is on my lap, or next to me, she will growl at Beau if he tries to come too close. Beau will give way to her. They both love to give kisses and are very affectionate with DH as well as me. Luckily, there are two of them and two of us - so there's always a lap available! Both my havies pee standing on 3 legs. On walks, Daisy marks more than Beau, but he will pee on top of her spot every chance he gets! Neither mark or pee in the house. Best pets ever!! I'd go by personality....

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thank you everyone for your input - please keep your opinions coming!!!!

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I only have a sample size of one, but I wouldn't trade my boy for anything! I started out with no preconceived ideas on the gender... I wanted a friendly, trainable, self-confident dog, and knew that whether it was a girl or a boy, it would be neutered.

Kodi never, ever marks in the house. On walks I have taken the advice to keep him away from vertical surfaces, so he has never learned to lift his leg outside either. He stands like a horse to pee. Also, I've heard that some girls mark too, so that doesn't seem to be a valid reason for picking one sex over the other.

I agree with the others who have said to find a good breeder, tell them what you want personality-wise, and have them help you pick. One bonus to getting a boy is that a lot of people DO have preconceived ideas about gender, and often THINK a female dog would be a better choice. As a result, you can sometimes get a quality boy faster than a girl. That's what happened when I was looking for a puppy. I contacted the Kings, and we discussed what I was looking for. They asked if I was specifically looking for a girl or a boy. When I said I didn't really care, they told me that they had just had a litter of FIVE boys, and while they had a waiting list for girls, three of these puppies were available just because they were the "wrong" sex. Ah well, the loss of those other puppy buyers was my gain, as I got the BEST one!


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