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Choking and dreams

Hey all!

I need some advise on some unusual behavior! - Sorry for the long message

Choking
Many mornings, as I walk to open my room door (Teddy sleeps in my room), Teddy walks half way to the door and seems to be choking. I've mentioned this to the vet and he didn't really seem concerned.
Not sure if he's choking on his own fur (I wake up and either find him standing next to me and staring at me or sitting on my leg and licking himself!). .
Choking isn't daily but probably a few times every few weeks. Does anyone know what this is?
He acts normal - running around the house with his toys in mouth as soon as he stops choking. and yesterday, he stopped choking and walked away as soon as he noticed me watching him!

I had a visitor from abroad and she has a dog. She mentioned that her dog does that too sometimes and her vet had asked her to rub his neck. Teddy doesnt like anyone rubbing his neck or face.
It doesn't last long. Usually under a min but its definitely not something I've seen in other dogs.


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Teddy seems to dream quite a lot. Most nights, I can catch him wagging his tail whilst snoring away... or running/digging whilst lying on his sides (he does this when he is playing on the bed when awake)!
I've once noticed he was trembling and whining. Possibly a nightmare? Should I wake him up if he is possibly having a nightmare?

Digging and rubbing his face

Teddy isn't allowed in my room when I'm at work (for safety of my shoes!). When I get home, he runs into my room and starts rubbing his face on my bed then jumps around, and digs into the air as he lies on his side or back! He even opens the room door himself (or whines) if I don't open the door within 10 mins of getting home.

When we went out of town for easter, he had a big garden to play, dig and run around with the other dogs (he's known all other dogs since he was a puppy). Still, he snuck into the house, rubbed himself on a carpet (which he isn't allowed to be on) and then got on to his back and started digging in the air!
Why not just dig in the garden like the other dogs??
Anyone know what is going on??
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Hey all!

I need some advise on some unusual behavior! - Sorry for the long message

Choking
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He acts normal - running around the house with his toys in mouth as soon as he stops choking. and yesterday, he stopped choking and walked away as soon as he noticed me watching him!

I had a visitor from abroad and she has a dog. She mentioned that her dog does that too sometimes and her vet had asked her to rub his neck. Teddy doesnt like anyone rubbing his neck or face.
It doesn't last long. Usually under a min but its definitely not something I've seen in other dogs.

Digging and rubbing his face

...When I get home, he runs into my room and starts rubbing his face on my bed then jumps around, and digs into the air as he lies on his side or back! He even opens the room door himself (or whines) if I don't open the door within 10 mins of getting home.

When we went out of town for easter, he had a big garden to play, dig and run around with the other dogs (he's known all other dogs since he was a puppy). Still, he snuck into the house, rubbed himself on a carpet (which he isn't allowed to be on) and then got on to his back and started digging in the air!
Why not just dig in the garden like the other dogs??
Anyone know what is going on??
I can't tell you what's going on - but I can relate

As for the choking - I wouldn't say that Perry chokes, but he does vomit more than I'd like (will be asking the vet about that in June when we're in the US) - and when he is close enough and seems like he's maybe going to vomit (it seems a little like choking I guess), I will reach over and rub his throat and it stops the reaction.


As for the bed rituals - Every morning we get up, let Perry out of his crate, he grabs his raccoon toy, we go outside then he runs into the bedroom and jumps on the bed and rubs himself all over it (not just face but face, back, over and over). If I get in there fast enough I stop him and give him some good scratches - I've been thinking that maybe he was itchy and being in his crate didn't have any way to roll around? But I don't know.

As for digging - well, Perry will dig outside (he seems to like the patch of dirt that edges along the front edge of the veranda outside the living room door into the yard) and also likes to 'dig' into the couch. In the bedroom it's less digging and more nesting I think - he'll scratch (til I tell him to stop) but will more often try to pull the sheet with his mouth, trying to put it how he wants (yes, I make his stop that too).

For something funny - Perry really really likes to drop his toys off the side of things - the couch, the bed. Doesn't matter how much room he has, he'll purposefully chew on his toys with them hanging over the edge and will drop them, then will jump down to get them. Not a big deal mostly, except that he does it in the bedroom which means that they fall between the bed and the mosquito net - which then results in him grabbing the toy through the mosquito net and pulling it. So far he hasn't ripped the net, but it's going to happen one of these times (and it's a good/ nice net). I keep trying to stop that, but the boy really loves to drop his toys!
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Hey all!

I need some advise on some unusual behavior! - Sorry for the long message

Choking
Many mornings, as I walk to open my room door (Teddy sleeps in my room), Teddy walks half way to the door and seems to be choking. I've mentioned this to the vet and he didn't really seem concerned.
Not sure if he's choking on his own fur (I wake up and either find him standing next to me and staring at me or sitting on my leg and licking himself!). .
Choking isn't daily but probably a few times every few weeks. Does anyone know what this is?
He acts normal - running around the house with his toys in mouth as soon as he stops choking. and yesterday, he stopped choking and walked away as soon as he noticed me watching him!

I had a visitor from abroad and she has a dog. She mentioned that her dog does that too sometimes and her vet had asked her to rub his neck. Teddy doesnt like anyone rubbing his neck or face.
It doesn't last long. Usually under a min but its definitely not something I've seen in other dogs.
Do you know what "reverse sneezing" is? That would be my first guess, and if that's what it is, it's completely harmless. Kodi doesn't do it, but both of my girls do from time to time. They do seem to find it a bit distressing, so I like to help them stop it if I can. With both of them, if I LIGHTLY pinch their nostrils together for a couple of seconds, it stops.


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Teddy seems to dream quite a lot. Most nights, I can catch him wagging his tail whilst snoring away... or running/digging whilst lying on his sides (he does this when he is playing on the bed when awake)!
I've once noticed he was trembling and whining. Possibly a nightmare? Should I wake him up if he is possibly having a nightmare?
Yes, all three of mine dream, and do a lot of what we call, "Chasing Wabbits". We have noticed that there is more of this after a particularly busy day...like if we've been off on a hike or at a trial. I do think this serves a similar function to our dreams, allowing them to "process" all that has gone on. They probably ARE chasing those rabbits they WISH they'd caught during the day!

Kodi occasionally has what I perceive as "bad dreams" where he will whine or (more rarely) actually cry out in his sleep. If he's just whining, usually me just quietly saying "Kodi, you're OK," in a quiet voice, will get him to settle, without even really waking up. Once or twice, (in 8 years, so it's NOT often) he has had a dream that has seemed SO distressing that I've felt the need to get out of bed and wake him up. In those cases, when he woke up, he seemed a bit wild-eyed... Panting and clearly distressed. A little bit of stroking and some quiet reassurance seemed to be all he needed to settle back down to sleep. I've never been able to make a clear connection between those really bad dreams and anything that has been going on.

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Digging and rubbing his face

Teddy isn't allowed in my room when I'm at work (for safety of my shoes!). When I get home, he runs into my room and starts rubbing his face on my bed then jumps around, and digs into the air as he lies on his side or back! He even opens the room door himself (or whines) if I don't open the door within 10 mins of getting home.

When we went out of town for easter, he had a big garden to play, dig and run around with the other dogs (he's known all other dogs since he was a puppy). Still, he snuck into the house, rubbed himself on a carpet (which he isn't allowed to be on) and then got on to his back and started digging in the air!
Why not just dig in the garden like the other dogs??
Anyone know what is going on??
I really think this is mostly them just wanting to get our smell (or another "good" smell!) on them. The girls both do this a lot. Kodi does it less, but is more likely to roll and rub on "smelly stuff" outside. Pixel does the strangest thing... And I really think that for some odd reason, she likes the way it feels. She will rub her body back and forth over our leather couches until she is FULL of static electricity, with her hair standing out like a bottle brush. Then she will LEAP off the couch and run, full speed around the house. Then she comes back and does the same thing over again. The little nut!
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I don't know about the choking either, but if it is reverse sneezing as Karen suggested, you can find examples of dogs doing that on youtube. As far as the rubbing goes, Willow loves to rub her face and back on the carpet so I don't find that unusual for Teddy to do. Willow also loves to dig outside in soft sand or dirt. She'll also dig her bed as if she's digging a hole in it. She also dreams and makes little woofing sounds in her dream. My corgi did the same thing although she had more foot action in her dreams than Willow does. Foxy used to run in her dreams but I don't see Willow doing that so much.

Back to the choking, Willow almost always will cough and kind of choke after she drinks water. Foxy, my corgi did that too.



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I am thinking this is the "reverse sneeze". Henry does it when very excited or over-stimulated. I am used to it, but I think it concerns folks who don't know about it. Overall, when he does it I do go down to him and pat his side just to check on him a bit.
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Thanks for the helpful information.

Karen: I had never heard about reverse sneezing so thanks to you and everyone for the info!

I read up (and watched some videos) on reverse sneezing and thing that's what it might be.
Now i know, not to panic when it happens next. I thought he was dying the first time it happened!

Melissa,
I am in the same situation as you with the dropped toys between the bed and net.
I've had Teddy just under 3 years and have already had to replace my net 4 times (even though I replace parts of the frame with older ones when they break)!

Teddy also drops his toys off the bed (sometimes he keeps looking at me and the toy and whining until i pick it up for him) but most of the time, he jumps off the bed to get it and jumps back on the bed.... then 5 mins later, same situation!

I have one of those frame nets that fit around the bed and Teddy runs right through it.... learnt the hard way not to tuck it under the mattress to keep him out of my bed. lol!... did that a few times and he was persistent in trying to jump through it... I ended up with a big hole in the net and broken frame! lol! waking up with him and the net crashing on to my face at 3 am was definitely not worth the hastle to keep him out.

I have now given up on trying to keep him (and all his squeeky toys) out of my bed... I now wake up to find him either staring at my face or sharing my pillow with me (or using my leg as his pillow) and with at least 3 toys scattered on the bed!

Most days, he waits until I open the net flap for him but I occasionally catch him jumping through the net to get on the bed even though he knows where the flap is!
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I am glad to hear I am not the only one with a dog on my pillow and toys in the bed. Most nights, Loki falls asleep on the sofa while we watch TV (usually along the back.) When I go upstairs to read or watch more TV, I wake him for one last potty break. I have to carry him upstairs because he doesn't like the steep hard wood stairs. I dump him on the bed while I brush teeth, etc. He does zoomies on the king bed, rolls around, digs, and acts crazy. When I get in, he always tries to chew on my hands (it is so weird because he has mostly quit chewing on me other places). I stick a bee, bird, or squirrel in his mouth instead which he proceeds to throw around. When it falls on the floor, he will look at it, then me, and then bark at me to get it. He won't jump off the bed. It seems like forever but after a few minutes, and one last dig, he will stretch out across the end of the bed.

Once we turn out the lights, he starts working his way slowly toward the head of the bed between us going back and forth....feet, knees, bottom, side. At some point, he will get between my head and the headboard - never Marc's head. If I haven't moved down far enough, he doesn't care, he just sits on my head.

Mornings are the best! He paws me, and rolls over on his back to have his tummy scratched.

He also digs in his bed!!!! I am surprised that there isn't a hole in it.


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I have one of those frame nets that fit around the bed and Teddy runs right through it.... learnt the hard way not to tuck it under the mattress to keep him out of my bed. lol!... did that a few times and he was persistent in trying to jump through it... I ended up with a big hole in the net and broken frame! lol! waking up with him and the net crashing on to my face at 3 am was definitely not worth the hastle to keep him out.

I have now given up on trying to keep him (and all his squeeky toys) out of my bed... I now wake up to find him either staring at my face or sharing my pillow with me (or using my leg as his pillow) and with at least 3 toys scattered on the bed!

Most days, he waits until I open the net flap for him but I occasionally catch him jumping through the net to get on the bed even though he knows where the flap is!
Exactly! We've got a net that hangs from a frame above the bed and hangs to the floor (no need to tuck it in - I hate having to tuck the net in ). If Perry's already on the bed he's good at getting off and out from under the net (often he just backs up until he's outside). The net hangs far enough away from the bed that he can jump off the bed and then go under it to get out. He hasn't figured out the flap in either direction yet

When he's outside he does sometimes wait for me to tie it back (and turning back the covers) before jumping on the bed , but sometimes he'll just jump - and he hasn't seemed to figure out how to push around the net to get under it - he'll jump right 'through' it (aka ignores it and jumps on the bed). So far it's stayed intact - but between jumping on it like that AND more especially grabbing his toy through the net and pulling to get the toy (toy and net in the mouth) when he drops the toys off the bed, I'm waiting for the inevitable. I'm not looking forward to it because it's not an inexpensive net (most of the ones I could find when we bought it were the tuck in kind so I splurged online for this one).

Right now he sleeps in his crate, and he's not allowed in the bedroom if I'm not there (mostly for the safety of the net - though he only seems interested in the bed if I'm in there too), but it's the biggest reason I'm still not sure if I will transition him to sleeping outside of the crate - I would like to keep the net intact! I could start him on a bed beside our bed, inside the net - but once he went out he would probably end up damaging it trying to get back in/ on the bed.

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