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We recently purchased a Havanese and after reading this forum after the fact rather than before the fact we now have some questions and are coming to the experts for answers. Our dog is now approximately 4 months old.

1) Shedding. I was under the impression through research that they don't shed but ours is shedding. Is this a puppy thing or is it a shavanese thing?

2) She has two really pointy ears. Stand right up and almost as big as her little legs.

3) Her face is really bushy and I am looking at pictures of shavanes and they all have short hair on the face.

4) Do we have a shavanese?
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Depending on where you got her she could be a mix disguised as a Havanese. Post pictures and it'll be easier to tell--I bet she's cute no matter what!

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We purchased from a Havanese breeder and was told it was a Havanese and registered. The papers were to be mailed to us. Not sure how long that process takes but it has been 7 weeks. I did see the mother and deffinately a havanese. There were 2 males and a female to choose from.
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Welcome. Short haired havanese (shavanese) do shed. They have fur and not hair so they need to shed. Havanese also shed as do humans. I agree that we need pictures in order to help you better.




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As stated, Short-haired Havanese do shed. Regular coated Havenese do, too, just like people.

However, I'm concerned about erect ears and a bushy face. Havanese have drop ears and I think it's a pretty big red flag that your pup does not. I believe Erect ears are a dominant gene in dogs... in which case you don't get puppies with erect ears from two parents with drop ears. Also, most short-haired Havanese, as you noted, have smooth hair on their faces, and again, that coat pattern is genetically driven. This is another red flag.

I would follow up with the breeder and see when they are coming - seven weeks from puppy pick up seems long (and eight weeks is young). Do you know what registry they are from? Unfortunately there are registries out there that don't do much but list dogs and will list the parents as who ever anyone says they are. American Kennel Club is best... not perfect but they actually try.

I am inclined to think your pup is a mix. Of course that doesn't mean the mother isn't a pure bred Havanese, but maybe the father isn't? Pictures would help, for sure.

And purebred or no, it doesn't mean you don't have a delightful new family member!

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We purchased from a Havanese breeder and was told it was a Havanese and registered. The papers were to be mailed to us. Not sure how long that process takes but it has been 7 weeks. I did see the mother and deffinately a havanese. There were 2 males and a female to choose from.
But registered with which organization? I know I ruffle feathers when I say this, but to my knowledge, AKC is the only organization that only registers purebreds. Did you at least get the AKC number in your sale contract when you purchased the pup?
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Havanese have hair like humans and "shed" like humans do. Most dogs have fur and shed a lot.
Havanese have floppy ears. I hate to be the barer of bad news but your dog doesn't sound like a pure bred havanese or a shavanese.
I would start right now going after the "Breeder" to get some answers.
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But, having said that, welcome to the forum and I know you will love your baby no matter what breed she is!

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Purchase contract states WDR Registry Papers to be sent.
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Welcome!

What is WDR and where do you live? I haven't heard of this registry and would begin an internet search on that and on your breeder. Perhaps you'll get some feedback from other who have dealt with this breeder before.

Like you, I found this forum after we committed to a puppy from a breeder and would probably not use that breeder again knowing what I know now. In the long run though, you have your little sweetie and I'm sure you're already in love so does anything else really matter? Enjoy and please post photos, we all love puppies!

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I googled WDR an it seems like it might not exist anymore, having been replaced by World Kennel Club. Both (and several others like them, APRI, etc) are basically scam registries that tell you nothing about the breeding stock. People either register for free (and the sites are supported by ads) or pay something to register--but these are open to all dogs so don't prove lineage or that a dog is purebred. Unfortunately they are often used to trick people.

Hopefully you'll love your pup no matter what she is! Probably best not to worry and just enjoy the puppy antics. Unless you were duped out of a large amount of money for the puppy, and then you may want to consult a lawyer. A purebred Hav from a good, reputable breeder will cost about $2000 (sometimes a few hundred less...but I've never seen less than $1500).

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