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Hi, I'm seeking advice from you owners with older havanese. We have a 4 month old pup and he's doing well with the training. I watch him as much as I can (sometimes my kids distract me) and he has the occasional accident. They are getting good at noticing the signs. My youngest is 4.

I've read in the forum that training is reliable in most cases between 6-8 months. What does that mean? Will he let me know when he has to go or do I have to still watch the signs? Currently I take him out after naps, every hour and after eating and before bed.

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Hi, I'm seeking advice from you owners with older havanese. We have a 4 month old pup and he's doing well with the training. I watch him as much as I can (sometimes my kids distract me) and he has the occasional accident. They are getting good at noticing the signs. My youngest is 4.

I've read in the forum that training is reliable in most cases between 6-8 months. What does that mean? Will he let me know when he has to go or do I have to still watch the signs? Currently I take him out after naps, every hour and after eating and before bed.

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It appears you are doing everything right. Congratulations! Since the pup is about 4 m.o., I presume you have had him about 2 months. He is coming along nicely with his potty training in that short period. I would continue to take him out every hour for two more months or until he no longer has accidents inside. Then I would switch to taking him out every two hours (set a timer if necessary). I would keep that schedule until he is at least a year old, longer if necessary. It is great you have your children involved and make them part of the pup's care team. This is a win/win for pup and kids. Have your children feed him at meal time too. It will make the pup very bonded to them and vice versa. And last, the pup should get a small, healthy treat each time he has been successful outside. Ricky gets a piece of dehydrated banana about the size of a quarter each time he poops outside. He is 100% reliable, even tells us when he needs to go out, and the banana isn't necessary, but it has become a tradition in our house and all of us enjoy the routine.

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reliability is when your pup correctly chooses the appropriate place that you want him to go. and does not go anywhere else. If you are still having accidents your dog is not reliable. A four year old is not a reliable choice to read signals. It's all about giving them the opportunity to go when needed and rewarding them for getting it right. If you can't watch your dog all the time ,you need to provide an indoor optiion in an expen. If done right ,dogs can be reliable by 12 wks. old. My Molly has never been not reliable. The idea that it takes six months is not accurate.
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It appears you are doing everything right. Congratulations! Since the pup is about 4 m.o., I presume you have had him about 2 months. He is coming along nicely with his potty training in that short period. I would continue to take him out every hour for two more months or until he no longer has accidents inside. Then I would switch to taking him out every two hours (set a timer if necessary). I would keep that schedule until he is at least a year old, longer if necessary. It is great you have your children involved and make them part of the pup's care team. This is a win/win for pup and kids. Have your children feed him at meal time too. It will make the pup very bonded to them and vice versa. And last, the pup should get a small, healthy treat each time he has been successful outside. Ricky gets a piece of dehydrated banana about the size of a quarter each time he poops outside. He is 100% reliable, even tells us when he needs to go out, and the banana isn't necessary, but it has become a tradition in our house and all of us enjoy the routine.

Keep up the good work!
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Thanks for your positive feedback! I'm impressed how the kids are catching on which makes it easier for me. He is being well rewarded and it's definitely working. How old is your havanese?
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reliability is when your pup correctly chooses the appropriate place that you want him to go. and does not go anywhere else. If you are still having accidents your dog is not reliable. A four year old is not a reliable choice to read signals. It's all about giving them the opportunity to go when needed and rewarding them for getting it right. If you can't watch your dog all the time ,you need to provide an indoor optiion in an expen. If done right ,dogs can be reliable by 12 wks. old. My Molly has never been not reliable. The idea that it takes six months is not accurate.
Thank you for your feedback. I'm well aware that a 4 yr old is not a good source to be relay signs but have to say she's right most of the time if I miss him. I think it's great my little girl (and my oldest) are helping because it really is a family effort. We do have an ex pen and he's great in there (no accidents) and the longest he has in there is 4 hrs. I live in Canada so the potty business will be interesting in winter. It's great that your dog is reliable. Does he tell you when he has to go?
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Ahhhhhhhh, check the tracker at the bottom of my post for Ricky's age. Many members use the free tracker from a couple of different websites here on HF. Pick one you like and add it to your posts. They are great fun and add useful information about your furkid. You are in the early stages of a great adventure with the Havanese breed.

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Potty training for us has gone well. Penelope is 6 months old. She hasn't pottied in the house for over a month.
Regular trips outside and keeping her in the expen when not supervised helped a lot.
We started using a clicker a couple of months ago and when we would take her out to potty and if she peed or pooped, we would click and treat. This made going out to potty quite rewarding for her as opposed to doing it inside.
We went to California for a week in a rented house and that's when we noticed she would go to the door to bark to be let out for potty! When we got home, we trained her to ring a bell to go out and that is working perfectly for us.
Enjoy your pup! Sounds like you and your kids are building a great relationship!
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Thank you for your feedback. I'm well aware that a 4 yr old is not a good source to be relay signs but have to say she's right most of the time if I miss him. I think it's great my little girl (and my oldest) are helping because it really is a family effort. We do have an ex pen and he's great in there (no accidents) and the longest he has in there is 4 hrs. I live in Canada so the potty business will be interesting in winter. It's great that your dog is reliable. Does he tell you when he has to go?
oh for sure its imperative that kids are on board , it's just not good to count on them at that age. Yes she tells us in a number of ways. But with some dogs that doesn't come right away. Weather is never a problem with her because from day one we made sleet and snow a fun thing.
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Thank you for your feedback. I'm well aware that a 4 yr old is not a good source to be relay signs but have to say she's right most of the time if I miss him. I think it's great my little girl (and my oldest) are helping because it really is a family effort. We do have an ex pen and he's great in there (no accidents) and the longest he has in there is 4 hrs. I live in Canada so the potty business will be interesting in winter. It's great that your dog is reliable. Does he tell you when he has to go?
My dogs have all been "reliable", as in no accidents, from fairly early... because I watched them carefully and confined them to an area where I knew they could be successful. Kodi, my oldest, didn't start "telling" me he needed to go out until he was over two years old. Pixel started scratching on the back door as her signal pretty early... before a year. Panda MIGHT be a problem if she were alone, because she tends to run to the door and look back over her shoulder, but she doesn't make any noise. So if you didn't see her, it could be a problem. Fortunately, with two other dogs going in and out, she goes out plenty often enough that it isn't a problem. she just goes in and out with them... Which may be why she's never felt the need to develop a clear signal.


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Weather is never a problem with her because from day one we made sleet and snow a fun thing.
And Dave (and other people's) choice to only have their dogs potty outside is certainly a viable solution. We chose to continue the indoor potty solution that all our dogs were trained to by their breeders. (two different breeders, but one used the system designed by the other) Our dogs all will use a litter box if they can't get outdoors. They ALL prefer going out (which they all decided without any help from us) but we also have continued to highly reinforce using the indoor potty. It makes it easier in very bad weather, and also when we travel with them and are on the 15th floor of a hotel!
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