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No bones about it?

We hosted a barbecue party this weekend and were tempted to share some baby back ribs with Phoebe. Hey, she earned them by carefully watching the grill for hours and hours. We never give cooked (or any) chicken bones to her, and I sometimes give her raw bison bones from the pet store. What about cooked beef or pork ribs? are these safe for Havs (not addressing the fatty meat attached to them..this had already been removed). In the end, we held some ribs for her to scour after we were done with them. She was really in heaven, and had no GI upset afterward thank goodness! It did seem that she could start to actually get bits of bone from the ends, and so we would swap the rib for a different one.
So, are cooked ribs safe? under what circumstances? It seemed like very close supervision (actually holding and controlling the bone) was required -is there a safer way to share?



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I gave our Alsation ribs from a barbeque many years ago. The next day we were taking him to the vet to get the bones out. Learned my lesson. Never give cooked bones of anykind to a dog.
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I think I read here on the forum that cooked bones are a no-no. As tempting as it is we just don't give bones.

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I have always heard that they could splinter up and hurt a dog's intestines/digestive track and be dangerous, I'm really nervous about giving her any bones, even the raw ones they sell for dogs.

She did get her paws on a chicken bone that some knucklehead threw on the grass at my son's graduation party and fortunately no problems, I think I caught the munchkin sneaking it early enough,

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Cooked bones are a big no-no! They will be brittle and a puncture danger to your dog's stomach/intestines. Raw meaty bones, size appropriate for your pooch, are okay though they may cause tummy or potty trouble if your dog isn't used to them.

Our pack was fed a raw, prey model diet for a few years and they never had problems with items such as emu legs, pig heads, whole turkeys (cut into quarters), whole chickens, goat body parts, beef ribs, lamb shanks, whole mackerel, etc.

They couldn't actually eat the bigger bones, but they had no problem with the smaller ones.

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In April of this year, the FDA issued a warning against feeding bones to dogs. Here’s the link: http://www.fda.gov/ForConsumers/Cons.../ucm208365.htm

Not surprisingly, this led to a flurry of blog posts from vets, pet nutritionists, and the like. The consensus amongst the experts seemed to be:
Cooked = Bad
Raw = Potentially OK if certain precautions are taken. Basically, the experts agreed that if a pet owner wants to feed their dog bones, they should only feed raw meaty bones, they should supervise their pet while they have the bone, and they should remove the bone at the first sound of tooth on bone. Cooked bones can splinter (bone splinters are the source of most of the problems cited by the FDA), and bones that have been stripped of all meat can crack teeth.

You were right to give Phoebe the close supervision you described. The safer way to share in the future is probably getting her a raw meaty bone of her own at the butcher shop. They’re both fresher and have more meat on them than the bones you can get at the pet shop, so will be an appropriate reward for her whenever she selflessly devotes hours of her time to watching the grill for you.

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that is a no no in my book..don't chance it.

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In April of this year, the FDA issued a warning against feeding bones to dogs. Here’s the link: http://www.fda.gov/ForConsumers/Cons.../ucm208365.htm

Not surprisingly, this led to a flurry of blog posts from vets, pet nutritionists, and the like. The consensus amongst the experts seemed to be:
Cooked = Bad
Raw = Potentially OK if certain precautions are taken. Basically, the experts agreed that if a pet owner wants to feed their dog bones, they should only feed raw meaty bones, they should supervise their pet while they have the bone, and they should remove the bone at the first sound of tooth on bone. Cooked bones can splinter (bone splinters are the source of most of the problems cited by the FDA), and bones that have been stripped of all meat can crack teeth.

You were right to give Phoebe the close supervision you described. The safer way to share in the future is probably getting her a raw meaty bone of her own at the butcher shop. They’re both fresher and have more meat on them than the bones you can get at the pet shop, so will be an appropriate reward for her whenever she selflessly devotes hours of her time to watching the grill for you.
I agree Tracy, this news did create a storm. Bones (uncooked ) can be beneficial. I don' t like them, they make me nervous. This is one of those personal choices. But the word on cooked is this. Never feed any bones that have been heat treated in any way – e.g. boiled, roasted, baked,
barbecued, “sterilized” – NOT EVEN THE KIND SOLD AT PET STORES!
Heat changes the chemical structure of the bone matrix and makes it brittle and easy to
break. This can cause damage to the intestines or compaction.
Never let the dog eat any raw bones unattended. Despite being very healthy for the teeth
and gums, they present the same choking hazard as any other chew toys, including Nyla
Bones, Rawhides, Greenies and so on.

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