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Housetraining advice needed at 1-yr

Help! Just started having several accidents in the past two weeks after several months of doing pretty well!

We take her out about 5 times a day, or about every 3-4 hours. When she has an accident there is rarely a warning. I will say it is very hard to literally keep eyes on her at all times...she could be right near me on a tether and I can turn away for just a moment, next thing you know...she peed. So I'm wondering if we need to go back to square one by rewarding with special treats when she goes outside? (I know we shouldn't let her see us clean it up in the house.)

Also, a trainer recently suggested we give her a small treat every time she goes in her crate, as well as giving her kibble throughout the day when we work on some basic training commands. Could the periodic feeding be contributing to the irregular potty habits?

And lastly, for those of you that take your dogs out 5-6 times a day, are you walking them each time? (Right now each time we take Goldie out it involves a minimum 20-minute walk and it's becoming very difficult to continue with this schedule.) Does anyone suggest an electric fence?

Thank you so much for any advice.
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I do not walk Molly each time we go out. I take her out in our yard for potty. I have a potty command and it is a rather quick process. I would not have time for a 20 minute walk each time I take her out. For our potty trips I use a clip on collar and leash. When it is time for a walk I put her harness on her. I always potty her first in the yard before we start our walk. I don’t like electric fences for small dogs. I would worry about her safety with wildlife or other dogs coming into the yard. I have also seen too many neighborhood dogs get spooked or see something and run right through the invisible fence. There is also the chance that a person could snatch your dog too. Any time your dog regresses with potty training you should first rule out a UTI and then go back to your original potty training system and giving less freedom in the house.
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I do not walk Molly each time we go out. I take her out in our yard for potty. I have a potty command and it is a rather quick process. I would not have time for a 20 minute walk each time I take her out. For our potty trips I use a clip on collar and leash. When it is time for a walk I put her harness on her. I always potty her first in the yard before we start our walk.
Same here. I don't walk Perry every time he needs to go out - though to be fair, I don't really walk him at all (too many stray dogs, no sidewalk and crazy traffic here in Kampala). If I'm taking him out on a leash we use his regular collar and a leash for pottying in the yard (though often I just open the door and let him go out.) He also has a potty command, though not sure he really obeys that of if he just has to go quickly when we go out - it does remind him to get back to business if he starts wandering/ sniffing though that works better on the leash than when he's on his own.

The only time I potty him on a 'walk' is if I'm staying in a hotel somewhere, and then the walk is just more to find a spot he finds acceptable and it's pretty quick - usually no more than 5 minutes. He generally doesn't potty if we're on a proper walk (maybe because we did it before).
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First take her to the vet and have her checked for a UTI. Yes, irregular feeding can contribute to accidents, when they have extra treats and kibble they usually drink a little extra water.

As for the electric fence idea NO they are not a good idea. They don't keep other dogs out of your yard or predators that could harm your pup.
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Thank you for the comments. I see that an electric fence is not a good idea.

We've tried to teach a potty command since she was 3 months old but it hasn't worked. I will keep trying! It often takes her 15-20 minutes to go when we take her out. It would help if we could start reading her cues about when she needs to go out. Right now we just take her out on schedule.
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It can also help to identify a specific potty area in your yard. When you take her out for potty, go directly to that area. Keep her on leash but within that restricted area. it's not play time or walk time, it's potty time! Big praises and treats when she goes. At first it will still take time but if you only go to that area for one reason and she's rewarded for it, it can help to speed up the process when she learns that's why you're in that spot.
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Put all meals and potty time on a schedule if possible. First thing in the AM, have the leash in hand, be ready to walk out the door and then say 'Let's go potty OUTSIDE" in a happy voice. Once outside stay confined to a designated potty area. You dictate the area. Give a small treat the SECOND she pees and really PRAISE her, then go inside immediately. After that, confine her to small ex-pen near you (3x3) until the next meal or potty time (we do both during the same time period). Repeat the same words and actions as you did in the AM. Emphasize the words potty, pee, and OUTSIDE.

When you go for a walk, make it a walk and not a "marking session" where she pees every two minutes for a few seconds.

We take Tux out and feed on a fairly regular 4x a day schedule. 7 AM, 11 AM, 4:30 PM, 8:30 PM. We walk outside the door to his spot, he pees, we go back inside (all within two or three minutes). He poops once a day usually in the AM. After he pees, I ask, "Do you have more to do?" He either starts sniffing around or he heads back inside. He is like clockwork. Walks do not exist for the purpose of leaving a pee trail. He is completely dependable because we regimented the process using the same actions, at the same times, with the same words.

When he first peed inside the house, (because I forgot to take him out) I said, "Oh no, you have to potty OUTSIDE" (not scolding though), and I would pick him up and dash outside. Always PRAISE, Always PRAISE, until she gets it. Tux caught on fairly quickly. At her age, if she needs to pee more often than every four hours or so, then you might have her checked for a urinary tract infection.

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Put all meals and potty time on a schedule if possible. First thing in the AM, have the leash in hand, be ready to walk out the door and then say 'Let's go potty OUTSIDE" in a happy voice. Once outside stay confined to a designated potty area. You dictate the area. Give a small treat the SECOND she pees and really PRAISE her, then go inside immediately. After that, confine her to small ex-pen near you (3x3) until the next meal or potty time (we do both during the same time period). Repeat the same words and actions as you did in the AM. Emphasize the words potty, pee, and OUTSIDE.

When you go for a walk, make it a walk and not a "marking session" where she pees every two minutes for a few seconds.

We take Tux out and feed on a fairly regular 4x a day schedule. 7 AM, 11 AM, 4:30 PM, 8:30 PM. We walk outside the door to his spot, he pees, we go back inside (all within two or three minutes). He poops once a day usually in the AM. After he pees, I ask, "Do you have more to do?" He either starts sniffing around or he heads back inside. He is like clockwork. Walks do not exist for the purpose of leaving a pee trail. He is completely dependable because we regimented the process using the same actions, at the same times, with the same words.

When he first peed inside the house, (because I forgot to take him out) I said, "Oh no, you have to potty OUTSIDE" (not scolding though), and I would pick him up and dash outside. Always PRAISE, Always PRAISE, until she gets it. Tux caught on fairly quickly. At her age, if she needs to pee more often than every four hours or so, then you might have her checked for a urinary tract infection.
I forgot to mention that the confinement is only until you feel your dog is dependable with the pottying outside. Tux has full run of the house with no problems.

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Help! Just started having several accidents in the past two weeks after several months of doing pretty well!



We take her out about 5 times a day, or about every 3-4 hours. When she has an accident there is rarely a warning. I will say it is very hard to literally keep eyes on her at all times...she could be right near me on a tether and I can turn away for just a moment, next thing you know...she peed. So I'm wondering if we need to go back to square one by rewarding with special treats when she goes outside? (I know we shouldn't let her see us clean it up in the house.)



Also, a trainer recently suggested we give her a small treat every time she goes in her crate, as well as giving her kibble throughout the day when we work on some basic training commands. Could the periodic feeding be contributing to the irregular potty habits?



And lastly, for those of you that take your dogs out 5-6 times a day, are you walking them each time? (Right now each time we take Goldie out it involves a minimum 20-minute walk and it's becoming very difficult to continue with this schedule.) Does anyone suggest an electric fence?



Thank you so much for any advice.


I agree with the great advise others have already offered here. My puppy,KC, is 10 weeks old and we are doing everything we can think of to get him to consistently potty outside. We keep a little doggie bell (like a service bell) on the floor near the door that we go out and help him ring it every time he goes out. I found that I was giving him too much time outside and realized that I should not let him sit down or lay down at all. I gently pull up on the leash to get him on his feet and continually say “go potty” and “hurry up” using a pleasant and encouraging tone. If he doesn’t go after 5 min or so, I take him back in house and put him in his exercise pen for another 15 min, before trying again. After he goes potty, we typically let him go to his dishes or go play with toys on an area carpet in our family room. He has voluntarily rung his bell several times now when he had to go out at very unexpected times. We know that we have a long way to go—but feel optimistic.


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