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Hello. Apologies if this is a dumb question. At what age should a pup be selected/paired by a breeder? Is it OK for me to insist that I want to select a pup in person, and not based on a photo?

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Every breeder has a different policy. I've dealt with everything from order of deposit=order of pick of litter, to the breeder picks your puppy for you usually at 8 weeks but takes your wishes into account whenever possible. I'm seeing the latter more often these days, I don't love that way. I think meeting the puppies in person is helpful. I understand breeders not wanting you to choose on color or looks alone. But I've also found that the puppy that the breeder describes and gets to know changes (sometimes quite a bit) when it comes home and is separated from their littermates and the other adult dogs.

It is best to just pick a breeder who has a policy that makes sense for you. Many breeders require non refundable deposit so being clear on all of their policies before committing is important.
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To add to what Cmward posted, I fully understand and support breeders wanting to have a say in which puppies go to which homes. The first priority of any good breeder should be to pair the right puppy with the right breeder. Personally, I would not do business with a breeder who required a non-refundable deposit. The best breeders I kno have waiting lists. If you don't want a particular puppy, they have someone else in line who does. So they way I look at it is, the breeder and I should work together to make sure I get the puppy best suited to me. But I always have "veto power", in that if I DON'T think a particular puppy will work for me, I can always pass on that puppy and wait for another, either from that breeder or someone else. I think many people are in too much of a hurry to get a pupoy NOW, rather than wait for the "right" puppy.

And it is also true that with the best efforts of the breeder, personalities DO change as the puppy grows. In part due to just who that puppy is, and in part due to the life experiences that puppy has after leaving the breeder. If you make the decision yourself, you can be mistaken, just as the breeder can be. Thta is what happens with living creatures. The best we can do is take all the information available, and make our decision, yea or nay, whether we want to bring a particular puppy into our homes. It is unreasonable to expect that the breeder should let the buyer (usually, though not always, a less experienced dog person) make that decision on their own. It is also unreasonable for the breeder to expect a buyer to HAVE to take the only puppy left in the litter or lose their deposit. That's not fair either. So just don't do business with people who insist on non-refundable deposits. There are plenty of top breeders who don't.
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Thank you both for your responses. This is our first time looking for a breeder, and the process is a bit overwhelming. The books I've read say that it's important to select a pup based on its personality (i.e. you don't want a pup that's afraid of people). One breeder we're considering wants us to pick our pup based on a photo of the litter at two weeks of age. Another breeder wants us to pick last because we don't want a show dog. Yet another breeder wants to choose for us based on our responses to a questionnaire. (FWIW, all three of these breeders have non-refundable deposits.) All we want is to open our home and our hearts to a puppy. It's so hard to know what's right.

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All we want is to open our home and our hearts to a puppy. It's so hard to know what's right.
Just to clarify: I'm not suggesting that love for a pup is enough. We understand and our preparing for the incredible responsibility that is dog ownership.

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My breeder picked my puppy at 8 weeks taking into account what I was looking for in a puppy. We had a series of emails back and forth as she was making her decision. She had sent many videos and photos of the puppies throughout the 8 weeks and by the time she was making the selection, I was surprised how much of their little personalities were showing through on the videos.

It was an interesting process for me. I realized how if I had made an early selection, before you could tell much about their personalities, I would never have selected the pup I got because he had lighter coloring and I preferred the darker ones. I would probably have made the wrong choice because I didn't have much else aside from looks to go on. But by selection time, I was so hoping I would get the pup I did get! And I am SO very happy he's mine. Also by the time she was ready to make the selection I had a lot of confidence that she would make the best choice she could for me. I was happy for her to make the choice. Another reason to find a breeder who not only does the right things but listens and with whom you can connect.
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Thank you both for your responses. This is our first time looking for a breeder, and the process is a bit overwhelming. The books I've read say that it's important to select a pup based on its personality (i.e. you don't want a pup that's afraid of people). One breeder we're considering wants us to pick our pup based on a photo of the litter at two weeks of age. Another breeder wants us to pick last because we don't want a show dog. Yet another breeder wants to choose for us based on our responses to a questionnaire. (FWIW, all three of these breeders have non-refundable deposits.) All we want is to open our home and our hearts to a puppy. It's so hard to know what's right.
Well, I weighed in on non-refundable deposits. I'd look elsewhere if it were me. IMO! A breeder who wants you to choose based on photos is NOT a good breeder, concerned about the proper homes for her pups. Some show breeders DO prioritize show homes. But it is incredibly unlikely that ALL the pups in a litter are going to be show quality at 8-10 weeks. Again, if it it turns out that the puppy offered doesn't meet your needs, "just say no." (Deposit or not... there is too much else at stake)

The last breeder sounds like she is at least thinking about "puppy fit", but I think it's impossible to do that well, just based off a questionnaire.


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