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How to transition from crate in bedroom to bed on floor in bedroom!

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I'd love to get some advice! Our lively, 7 month old Moose sleeps in a crate in our bedroom. He is able to jump up on our beds, but we don't want him sleeping with us there (we have enough trouble staying asleep...haha!) He wakes us up with polite noises between 6 and 7 every morning (we all go to bed at 10). Sometimes he wakes us up at 4, at which time I pretend that I don't know him, take him outside and then pop him back in the crate where he'll sleep another 2 hours or so. He used to do this only when he had diarrhea, but maybe once a month, he'll wake us just to pee and poop at that time.

My question is...would he be sleeping better/longer if we allow him to sleep in his bed in our room? How do you train your pups from jumping on the bed and waking you up if you don't want that. He is bell trained in the house (though he does ring it sometimes when he just want to play/attention). He hasn't had any accidents for at least a month an a half. We could certainly place a bell on the inside of the door to our bedroom. Thoughts?

Should we wait until he's a bit older to attempt this, and once we try it, can we successfully go back to the crate if it proves too early/disastrous? Any suggestions would be greatly appreciated!

Also, has anyone successfully transitioned their pup from bedroom to family room? Suggestions on that as an alternate strategy would be lovely as well!
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Tux never had a crate, but he slept on a feather pillow and cotton sheet inside his ex-pen next to our bed. He was NEVER allowed on the bed. When he transitioned out of the ex-pen, but in his same locale next to the bed, he would try to jump on the bed and I would calmly say "No no, this is your bed and place him on his wonderful pillow and tell him how wonderful it was and how good he was to stay there. We use the same wording every night, "time to go night night", call him over to his wonderful pillow and sheet, and give a soft calming belly rub. We get into bed and he stays. Once you open the door to jumping or allowing on the bed at any other time, it becomes a different battle.

One thing I noticed, is they want to feel safe when they sleep. Tux would crawl under the nightstand or near a bench in the corner (still near our bed), so I put his pillow and sheet closer to those hiding places. If you put whatever he is sleeping on that is in his crate, on the floor in a "safe" den like space, he may be quite happy to stay there. I use a feather pillow and a cotton sheet because they breathe and don't build up heat like synthetic fabrics do. Tux loves either that or a cold stone floor.

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I think you may be setting yourself up for different problems if you ditch the crate for a bed on the floor. You can’t know what the dog will do outside of the security and confinement of his crate. He may jump on the bed or wander around the room which would be more disruptive to your sleep. I had a dog who slept in a crate that I left with a family member during my vacation. They allowed her to sleep in bed with them and when I came back it became a nightly battle because she no longer wanted back in there for sleep, so it is not always easy to go back to it if you choose to. It sounds to me like he is doing great sleeping in the crate as is, and if it were me, I wouldn’t mess with a good thing.



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Thank you both for your replies! I think we'll stick with the current situation for a while longer. One thing for sure is that in the future I will make sure that he knows that jumping on the bed is not allowed. Sometimes I'm just in awe of his athletic abilities...and don't realize that bad habits are in the making!
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I transitioned my two sleeping crates from the master bedroom to the guest room when one dog started waking and barking in the wee hours. It was not a difficult transition at all with two dogs, and I believe now all three of us sleep better. I leave room doors open so I might hear trouble, and though a part of me really misses having them close by, I feel a full night's sleep is too important for human health to mess with (and as much as I adore the dogs, I have to take care of their caregiver).

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Thanks for the reply, Marni! That gives me encouragement to move our little guy in the next few months. We have a house full of relatives for Thanksgiving, so we'll try after that!

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My dogs usually all sleep in crates. But they are also allowed on the bed in the evening before we go to sleep. Kodi and Pixel really WANT to go in their crates at bed time. Panda would prefer to stay with us. Every once in a while we do let her. She is an excellent "bed dog", and curls up between us and doesn't move a muscle all night, until we wake her up in the morning.

I guess what I'm saying is there is no right or wrong. Do what feels right for you and your dog. (as long as they are COMPLETELY and RELIABLY potty trained, of course!!!)


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My dogs usually all sleep in crates. But they are also allowed on the bed in the evening before we go to sleep. Kodi and Pixel really WANT to go in their crates at bed time. Panda would prefer to stay with us. Every once in a while we do let her. She is an excellent "bed dog", and curls up between us and doesn't move a muscle all night, until we wake her up in the morning.

I guess what I'm saying is there is no right or wrong. Do what feels right for you and your dog. (as long as they are COMPLETELY and RELIABLY potty trained, of course!!!)
Perry and I have a similar night routine. We go to the bedroom where he's allowed on the bed (right before bed and in the morning) where he can romp around... often when he chills out he transfers from the bed to the floor (where he will sometimes go and pull his blanket out of his crate so that he can half lay on it on the floor). When it's time to sleep I say bed time and he runs into his crate (with a 'wait' right outside it if I need to fix the blanket inside).

I've debated whether to transition him to beside the bed, but I have a feeling he'd end up being restless and keeping me up so he's staying in his crate for now. In his crate he's almost completely silent, with only some minor noises in the morning from his nails on the floor of the crate.
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Perry sounds like a very good dog, Melissa.

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Perry sounds like a very good dog, Melissa.
Thanks. I think he's a pretty good dog - my husband, on the other hand, still thinks he's a bit psycho. He does have his issues and has had issues with my husband from the beginning . The biggest problem at the moment is that he's a bit dual-personality with him (Perry with my husband) - at times he'll sit right next to him (and right after I got back from vacation in Italy with my Mom Perry would climb onto my husband's lap), and at other times he's afraid of him and growls or barks at him - often in the same day! And because neither behavior is consistent I'm running out of thoughts on what to do.

I'm coming to the conclusion that I'm at least part of the problem - but still can't figure out what might be triggering it. When I was in Italy, Perry and my husband were home without me for two weeks and they got along fine (I saw them on video chats to prove it)... and the climbing in the lap continued for about 2 days after I got back... then after about a week, the growling/ barking started again. It's not consistent on the circumstances or where he is when he's doing it (once in a while when he's beside me on the couch, but more often he's across the room - so don't think it's simply possessiveness) and a short time out in his crate usually chills him out enough for the rest of the afternoon. It's also not just because he reads my husband when he's in a bad mood (though that is sometimes the case) because he's also done it when my husband has been in a really good mood (well, or was until the growling started).

We saw a behaviourist last year, but don't think that would help again because (1)I think they would need to see us in the house, not in their office (and there are none available here in Kampala) and (2)my husband is not receptive to that at this point in time... so, my detective skills are being stretched as I try to figure out what the real issue is, how I'm contributing to it, and how to fix it.
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