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Unhappy Seperation Anxiety-Velcro Dog-vomiting

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I have a Havanese that is a dream. at 4 months she is potty trained by ringing a bell on the door, sleeps through the night, knows sit and wait and go lay down and understands she has to go lay down when we are eating. Beautiful puppy however she has terrible separation anxiety. She will vomit no matter where I leave her. I have her small night time kennel, I have a big play yard and I have the house gated off (this is where she spends her days other than sleeping) If left alone, around 30 minutes she starts vomiting from whining and some barking. I can't even take a nap where she hears me in the other room. I can luckily take her to work right now but can't forever (2 days a week) and she goes in the car just fine but I can't spend my life sitting in the car with her while the kids are doing things. I can't even grocery shop til everyone is in bed because frankly I am tired of bathing her and washing up bedding.

I have tried leaving here and there, I have tried heart beats, tv, radio, reassuring, treats, chew toys, essential oils, natural anxiety treats from vet. clothes that smell like me.

she is a velcro dog, I can't even get up for a cup of coffee without her coming out of a sleep to follow me. I tried the trick of keep getting up till she gets tired of following you but I wear out before she does. I am not sure she actually ever sleeps because I can shift in my seat and she bobs her head up. Not sure how she does it at night but she does. she goes from 9:30-5 or 6 am.

Will she out grow this? what more can I do?

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Another reader said her puppy was similar at 6 months, wow does it really take that long?

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I'm afraid I don't have much advice, just questions. Have you tried the technique of putting her in her crate and leaving her for a minute, then 2 then 3... though it sounds like it might be even slower - put her in her crate and see how far away from it you can go (even in the same room), letting her out when she's quiet, then moving further away, then out of the room (for a minute/ 2 each time), and expanding it. I've heard that works really well for some people.

My Perry has anxiety but it's slightly less about separation (though it was in the beginning, but he's gotten over being left alone in his crate - and he was never like yours) - he would bark an carry on but finally over time got over it - and it's more about change and excitement (people coming over, going for a drive, etc.) He also vomits a lot, but again, not in his crate because I've left him. I haven't found an anti-anxiety med that helps with this. He also knows when I shift on the couch to jump up to follow me and I had to put his crate in the bedroom when we first got him because even being in the living room was too far away.

Part of his comfort level in being left alone has to do with routine - he's now fine going into his crate at 7 in the morning when I leave for work, at 4 when my housekeeper puts him in before she leaves, and at 10 when I put him in for the night. He's not happy about it but doesn't act out when I put him in at odd times at home but will bark and carry on if I put him in (off schedule, etc) in a hotel or at my Mom's house when we're in the US. I don't know with your schedule if you can create some sort of schedule for her that makes her more comfortable?

On his vomiting, he does it all the time in the car and sometimes in the house - so I'm still trying to figure out the combinations (car I think is a combination of getting car sick plus anxiety, in the house it's sometimes excitement - running around plus having just drank a lot of water but sometimes it's hours after he ate and I think it's more anxiety related, etc.)
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Well, she has alot of things going well, potty training, basic commands, sleeping through the night at 4 months! Many people struggle much longer with those tasks. Still, I understand the frustration with the separation stuff. These are truly velcro dogs, bred to be companions so they never really out grow wanting to be near people, but with work, will usually get more relaxed about separation anxiety stuff.

You said she gets upset after about 30 minutes. Are you using a video camera to tell you this? If you or anyone else is in the house, she will know it and fuss about it . You can train them to get thru separation anxiety when you are gone and maybe be ok with you in house but separate but that is harder. I suggest a video camera to see what happens and how long it goes on as part of a separation training program of short departures etc but you really have to leave the house and get far enough away to make it work. I worried about Cassie until I watched her on baby cam and saw she settled down pretty fast, but was throwing herself at the gate as I opened the front door or even our side gate as her hearing is really, really good!

At 2 and half, Cassie finally will actually not jump up everytime I leave the room if she is comfortable and sleepy...she will wait 3 or 4 minutes before checking on me.
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I would recommend getting some professional help to come in..

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I have left the house for short jaunts, I say 30 minutes as when I leave the area and go elsewhere in the house its about 30 minutes to gag time and when I come back 30 minutes later (when I leave house) there is puke everywhere. But regardless if I am home she can hear a car on the street or a plane in the air and get all upset. This morning she started whining at 4 am so I let her out to go potty (She is still young I know she won't always make it through the night) but I put her right back into kennel as wake up is 6 and she immediately started hyperventilating and gagging.

I have worked up to the few minutes by leaving or going around the corner for a minute, at least I can hop the gate and go to the bathroom for a minute without her getting all upset although a new habit of peeing on the floor has started even when others are still in the area with her so my potty breaks are very quick. I do have potty pads which she uses in times I don't get to the door in time but when I leave she goes to a random place and pee's.

Where does one look for help?
I have dog training places but have found nothing for behavior issues.
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Because she is only 4 months old - give her time - all of these quirks will be worked out as she grows and matures...

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when it reaches this concern , it's time to do something. It doesn't always get better with time Separation Anxiety: The Velcro Dog Dilemma
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